AVTuco Posted January 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2019 I think he has potential, but just wish average shots wouldn't go through him like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 First goal was a mistake. He will make them like all keepers. What concerns me more is how Bowen had so much time and space to hit a volley in our area as a result of a long punt forward a moment earlier. Our defence is a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Zatman said: I do love a good made up stat since he has only played 3 times for us Yes, it’s only 8 conceded in 3. Still not a great look, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think people are finally starting to realise that it's our defense that's crap - rather than Nyland or Kalinic. So many people calling for Nyland's head when we let our opposition get into dangerous positions too easily now see the exact same "blunders" from Kalinic. Until our D learns how to push up and force players into bad positions we're going to be conceding idiotic goals, and when you're peppered with shots all game like Kalinic and Nyland have been they're bound to let in a few blunders. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Starting to think that long term, both Nyland AND Kalinic could be very good goalkeepers for us. Surely the scouts identified a ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: First goal was a mistake. He will make them like all keepers. What concerns me more is how Bowen had so much time and space to hit a volley in our area as a result of a long punt forward a moment earlier. Our defence is a shambles. Spot on, and something I have been trying to allude to since Saturday. It's an easy option to blame a goalkeeper for not making a save, but the concern should be how are the opposition being allowed the time and space to take a shot inside the area for Kalinic to be tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: I think people are finally starting to realise that it's our defense that's crap - rather than Nyland or Kalinic. So many people calling for Nyland's head when we let our opposition get into dangerous positions too easily now see the exact same "blunders" from Kalinic. Until our D learns how to push up and force players into bad positions we're going to be conceding idiotic goals, and when you're peppered with shots all game like Kalinic and Nyland have been they're bound to let in a few blunders. I agree, though Nyland is still crap. I think Kalinic is decent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think people are forgetting how clumsy Nyland was. Every cross into our box looked like it could go in. I don't feel as nervous with Kalinic in goal. I think he has a stronger character to push on than Nyland 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, wilko154 said: Spot on, and something I have been trying to allude to since Saturday. It's an easy option to blame a goalkeeper for not making a save, but the concern should be how are the opposition being allowed the time and space to take a shot inside the area for Kalinic to be tested. A goalie is going to face shots at some point during 90 minutes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 20:33, sir_gary_cahill said: I think long term Kalinic will be outstanding for us, Smith has changed our playing style, we’re trying to play out from the back. Kalinic is good with his feet, Kalinic is new to the country, it’s naturally going to take him a few months to settle. I thought Chester and Elphick were good today, I think Smith is changing us for the better, it will take time, we need to be patient, we are progressing well in my opinion I have to say that I think Nyland is significantly better with his feet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 21/01/2019 at 14:16, hippo said: A goalie is going to face shots at some point during 90 minutes though. Well I used to get into this debate with people in the Johnstone thread last couple of years. We had such a defensive set up under Bruce, he would only face 1 or 2 shots per game. His shots to save ratio was quite low in fact. But because he got so many clean sheets due to the way we played people thought he was ace. You speak to WBA fans now they don't rate him at all. Kalinic has got off to an absolute terrible start but I'm not writing him off yet. Thought Nyland was actually becoming a decent keeper towards the end, he even got in the championship team of the month for December but fans had already decided they didnt want him anymore.. seems the new country / time to settle is only used as an argument for big money signings and not everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Junxs said: Well I used to get into this debate with people in the Johnstone thread last couple of years. We had such a defensive set up under Bruce, he would only face 1 or 2 shots per game. His shots to save ratio was quite low in fact. But because he got so many clean sheets due to the way we played people thought he was ace. You speak to WBA fans now they don't rate him at all. Kalinic has got off to an absolute terrible start but I'm not writing him off yet. Thought Nyland was actually becoming a decent keeper towards the end, he even got in the championship team of the month for December but fans had already decided they didnt want him anymore.. seems the new country / time to settle is only used as an argument for big money signings and not everyone. Nyland was starting to look decent but still feared the worst whenever he came to catch a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Junxs said: Well I used to get into this debate with people in the Johnstone thread last couple of years. We had such a defensive set up under Bruce, he would only face 1 or 2 shots per game. His shots to save ratio was quite low in fact. But because he got so many clean sheets due to the way we played people thought he was ace. You speak to WBA fans now they don't rate him at all. Kalinic has got off to an absolute terrible start but I'm not writing him off yet. Thought Nyland was actually becoming a decent keeper towards the end, he even got in the championship team of the month for December but fans had already decided they didnt want him anymore.. seems the new country / time to settle is only used as an argument for big money signings and not everyone. Sure Klanic will be ok at this level in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 21/01/2019 at 13:21, Lord Willard said: I think people are forgetting how clumsy Nyland was. Every cross into our box looked like it could go in. I don't feel as nervous with Kalinic in goal. I think he has a stronger character to push on than Nyland Just before the first goal a cross came in and Kalinic was all over the place and a header landed on the roof off the net 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Haven’t been too impressed with Kalinic really on tne basis of his performance so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 His kicking yesterday was extremely poor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Give him time, he’s new to the country, in the long term, I think he’ll be outstanding for us, it takes any foreign import 6 months to adjust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I think he has been poor but so much better than Nyland. He comes and claims the bread and butter ones at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 How did Kalinic do today? I heard he did well?, and additionally no posts here, so i would assume the lack of posts implies he did do pretty good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Way better than Nyland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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