Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 30/09/2020 at 15:09, Greenfly said: All this talk of upgrading the stadium worries me a little. Look at it - it's a thing of beauty. I agree with upgrading the North Stand and maybe filling in the corners, but they shouldn't feel the need to do too much. VP is a huge part of our identity, and we shouldn't mess with it. I get it, but I also don't understand it. What if the original founders of VP never wanted it changed or improved because of sentiment? History is made, and made again, and again. Either way, if we get to the point where we are thinking of upgrading/changing, it might not be as big of a worry. If we want to compete we have to evolve, that doesn't necessarily have to mean losing our soul. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, kidlewis said: Redeveloping the north stand and filling in those corners would get us to 50,000. More than enough for us for a good long while. we still need a small multi storey car park and hotel on the site. Huge Warner that could be, especially for events If I were in it for the long haul I would do the Doug Ellis stand too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 On 04/10/2020 at 22:24, markavfc40 said: That is true mate. I picked Dean out as just being the face of it all really but it obviously goes way beyond him and starts with the owners, down through Purslow, Dean Smith, his coaching team and then the players. The turnaround has been nothing short of remarkable has it and I think having experienced the lows, and for a club the size of ours the indignity of the 2015/16 season and not even reaching 20 points was arguably an all time low, to then as you say sitting in the Championship and nearly going out of business in the summer of 2018 to now two years later having just beaten the reigning Premier League Champions 7-2 in the league is the stuff of fairy tales. Who knows where this all ends and maybe this is as good as it gets. I have a feeling this story has a way to run yet though. I have an inkling this is just the beginning! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Has any more been said about our owners purchasing additional clubs? I know it was mentioned a few times since they took over but as far as I know nothing has actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 00:01, Okonokos said: Not all heroes wear capes. They are our heroes, make no mistake about it. We not only have a club in existence thanks to them but a club that is moving forwards in every possible way. They should never have to pay for a drink in Birmingham. There is a free drinking fountain at St Phillips Cathedral, Temple Row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 01:01, Okonokos said: They should never have to pay for a drink in Birmingham. Wouldnt be the 1st owner to do that, i dont think Doug ever paid for a drink either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 They've put another £30m in shares in recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kingman said: They've put another £30m in shares in recently yup. wonder what it's for? Transfer outlay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) For us non-finance people, how does issuing more shares work if they already own 100% of the company? Wouldn't they just provide a loan? Edited October 15, 2020 by nepal_villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hong0311 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: For us non-finance people, how does issuing more shares work if they already own 100% of the company? Wouldn't they just provide a loan? Correct me if I am wrong - a loan is a liability to the club that you'll have to eventually pay back whilst issuing more shares basically means injecting money into company "in exchange" of more shares, in this case purely injecting money. Edited October 15, 2020 by hong0311 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, hong0311 said: Correct me if I am wrong - a loan is a liability to the club that you'll have to eventually pay back whilst issuing more shares basically means injecting money into company "in exchange" of more shares, in this case purely injecting money. Got it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, hong0311 said: Correct me if I am wrong - a loan is a liability to the club that you'll have to eventually pay back whilst issuing more shares basically means injecting money into company "in exchange" of more shares, in this case purely injecting money. Yes that’s how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Issuing more shares raises money when they are sold (in this case to the tune of £30m) but means there are now more shares in total so every share held then represents a smaller percentage of the company (not that this matters when they own all the shares between the two of them and are also the ones buying the new shares). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 00:41, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I get it, but I also don't understand it. What if the original founders of VP never wanted it changed or improved because of sentiment? History is made, and made again, and again. Either way, if we get to the point where we are thinking of upgrading/changing, it might not be as big of a worry. If we want to compete we have to evolve, that doesn't necessarily have to mean losing our soul. This is something I've never understood either, if it is done tastefully and in the spirit of Aston Villa it has to be a good thing. If we get to where NWSE envisage then we need a stadium as a business tool to rival the best in the world as a business tool. It's all about the grass and the noise for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 15 hours ago, TRO said: There is a free drinking fountain at St Phillips Cathedral, Temple Row. Wes bought Majestic Wines earlier this year, he got that base covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: Wes bought Majestic Wines earlier this year, he got that base covered Didn’t realise this. Maybe this is why we are now playing Champagne football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, sidcow said: Didn’t realise this. Maybe this is why we are now playing Champagne football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 05/10/2020 at 00:41, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I get it, but I also don't understand it. What if the original founders of VP never wanted it changed or improved because of sentiment? History is made, and made again, and again. Either way, if we get to the point where we are thinking of upgrading/changing, it might not be as big of a worry. If we want to compete we have to evolve, that doesn't necessarily have to mean losing our soul. I would genuinely rather us compete in the Premier League and have a lower chance of winning it whilst staying at Villa Park, than selling our soul in the name of money and competing with Petro-states to have more of a chance, but no guarantee, of winning the thing. I went to Spurs last year, its an amazing stadium, but has no magic (apart from the upside down pints!) Ask West Ham fan about their new stadium. Do you want a plastic bowl like Brighton or Southampton? I guess it essentially comes down to the fact I want to take my son to Villa Park on Saturdays. (I'm a romantic, the above probably isn't practical, but I wouldnt swap Villa Park for a trophy). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted October 15, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 They continue to pump money into the club without putting us into a situation with big debts, Some of that will be offset by the gains they've made in having an asset that they bought for less than Harry Maguire at £65m now being worth £300m, but they're not messing about, the levels of investment and the pace at which those investments keep coming suggests very much that they are very serious about pushing this club forward. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2020 I wonder if the £30m is for a player or for liquidity due to revenue shortfalls caused by Covid. I guess we'll find out shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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