New_Hope Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, VillaBrum said: I've come onto the Forum late and just realised that the stats have been done to death. I have to agree. The following statistics show just how negative WBA were. I know statistics are not the 'be all and end all' but these make interesting reading. Over two playoff matches Aston Villa WBA 47 Total shots 15 14 Shots on target 5 16 Shots off target 8 17 Blocked shots 2 25 Corner kicks 8 13 Fouls 29 2 Yellow cards 9 0 Red cards 2 2 Goalkeeper saves 10 Skin of our teeth stuff right there! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I never said I was 'happy' about it. There was probably a 20 minute spell across the two ties where I felt we lost control. That was more a general question not alluding you were. I think it was a much longer period in the second leg. First leg was a error that we were punished for and we made errors like this second leg but fortunately did not get punished. Lets hope that's the last of them eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Watch Ashley Cole roll back the years come the 27th Their forward line worries me, massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, deeps said: Watch Ashley Cole roll back the years come the 27th Their forward line worries me, massively. Our defence doesn't though. Put it this way, I think our forward line will cause more problems for their defence than theirs will ours. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Our defence doesn't though. Put it this way, I think our forward line will cause more problems for their defence than theirs will ours. Hope you’re right, pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) My main concern with the derby game is we are so relieved and almost shocked that we aren't playing Leeds, coupled with how well we played against derby twice so far this season, that it actually works against us. We really need to be on top of our game and guard against complacency, but I'm sure DS has it all in hand Edited May 17, 2019 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Think we've looked a bit complacent ever since Rotherham to be honest. Then we get smacked with reality during the first half and get our shit together for second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommy Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 I think many are overthinking the last four games/results: away against a good tough playing team with an apparently amazing tactician of a manager; against the best team in the division who were full strength needing a result to guarantee the title whilst we rested 5 or 6 first team starters; home and away against another decent team who had the attack/defend balance slid 90% over to defend. All four games against teams that finished above us in the league and yet in the two games that mattered, we achieved the result required. In no way will Derby be a pushover but, assuming they don’t set up like the boggies did, it will be a better watch than the boggy games and we’ll see more of the ball than last year’s final. Provided our effort and application at least matches Derby, we have a very decent chance. I’m reasonably confident we’ll give Derby a game which is one step better than we managed against Fulham. Anyone hoping for a repeat of the 0-3 or 4-0 league results, in a game worth £100m+ and against a team that is fired up from their previous achievements, is likely to be disappointed. Just hoping we do ourselves justice over the 90 or 120 minutes and get competent match officials. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I hope the fans forget about our previous games against Derby. This is a one off game bit like Wigan v Man City in FA cup. The setting ,the occasion and the pressure can affect normal performance levels .Some of our players have not performed well recently will Wembley inspire them?I do worry a bit about Wilson and Mount etc that they are so young they probably won’t feel the pressure that some of our older players might feel and perform well. Our players have shown great resilience recently eg Rotherham,Leeds and WBA that even if things begin to turn against them they have the confidence to persevere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I’m getting nervous about the game now. Yes we’ve got this massive aggregate score over them this season but so did Leeds. We’ve also never faced amount who changes the way they play. Our 5 game form doesn’t read that well either, p5 w2 d1 l2 Do I think we are better, yes. But that all goes out the window in a play off final. Just hope we’ve got one big performance in us this season. We can’t afford to let the occasion get to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Our 5 game form doesn’t read that well either, p5 w2 d1 l2 The last time we played Derby we were in rotten form so not sure makes difference 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2019 Derby weren’t in great form when we last played them, 1 win, 2 draws and 2 defeats in the league going into that fixture. But of course we weren’t in great shape either - 3 draws and 2 defeats in the previous 5 games. Before our 3-0 win earlier in the season, we had won 2 and lost 3 of the 5 games going into that fixture. Derby were 6 league games undefeated going into the game, having beaten small heath, WBA, Sheff Utd and drawing with QPR, Boro and Norwich. Pretty good form I would say. The point is, the current form of both sides is about as relevant as the results of our previous encounters, probably less so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: The point is, the current form of both sides is about as relevant as the results of our previous encounters, probably less so. Exactly. Form will have little to no impact during such a massive ‘one off’ game. When some form stats are emphasised (Derby beat wba and Leeds whilst Villa lost against Norwich and scrapped through on penalties against wba) and other stats are ignored (Villa had a 10 win streak followed by a decent draw at Leeds, resting players against Norwich and facing a 10 man defence against wba, whilst Derby didn’t manage a shot on target in their last home game), what’s the point? A team is only as good as it’s current game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Londonastonvilla said: I hope the fans forget about our previous games against Derby. It would be a huge mistake to ignore the games against derby county this season. We've battered them comfortably twice. it wasn't by accident. So why should we forget about it? Why should we change the approach? Just because its on a different pitch? If you find something that works you do it again and again. and who cares what Lampard is expecting? Give him what he fears most by coming out on the front foot and playing the whole game in their 18 yard box. We steam rollered our way into the play offs. derby sneaked in by the patio doors! The privilidged ex public school boy Lampard is a rookie got the big job as his first one. Smith has had to learn his trade in the toilets of league two. Grealish Terry Adomah Hutton Chester and the lads from last years final know what its about they can use the heartbreak as fuel. Smith went all gregory safety first against albion and scraped through. He knows what to do against derby. exactly how we did before. that first half was an exhibition in scintillating football. tora tora tora. Do Villa fans want to drive all the way to london get bent over for shit lager and tenner hotdogs and watch Villa flap it and park the bus again like last year? Derby should be bricking it. their only hope is some Villa fans inferiority complex. We should treat derby exactly like you would treat a team you've destroyed twice. with utter contempt. collars up chests out let the arrogance do the work. I'm going to london for a party. on and off the pitch. and I expect super jack is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted May 18, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2019 I think you'll beat Derby. Still very bitter two lucky barstewarding teams. The media narrative the Lampard beat us is nonsense. They played better in the 2nd half, Lampard got them to push forward more but until Cooper and Casilla had a total meltdown they were going nowhere. Cooper then gave them a pen and Berardi got sent off, we lost our heads (same as vs Wigan). Derby arent a bad side but by quite a way the weakest in the playoffs imo (which is what annoys me most) But yes I'd be very surprised if you dont beat Derby as against our injury ravaged side we still had to hand it to them they couldn't take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted May 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cjay said: I think you'll beat Derby. Still very bitter two lucky barstewarding teams. The media narrative the Lampard beat us is nonsense. They played better in the 2nd half, Lampard got them to push forward more but until Cooper and Casilla had a total meltdown they were going nowhere. Cooper then gave them a pen and Berardi got sent off, we lost our heads (same as vs Wigan). Derby arent a bad side but by quite a way the weakest in the playoffs imo (which is what annoys me most) But yes I'd be very surprised if you dont beat Derby as against our injury ravaged side we still had to hand it to them they couldn't take it. Hey Cjay, remember when everyone said you’d look great all year then fall short because of burnout and injuries.................... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Derby have been one of the form teams over the past 3 months, more so than Leeds? I'm not writing them off, it'll be a harder game than if we got Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cjay said: Still very bitter two lucky barstewarding teams. As opposed to the 2 cheating barstewarding sides that got knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted May 18, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Hey Cjay, remember when everyone said you’d look great all year then fall short because of burnout and injuries.................... In the unlikely imo event Derby beat you i shall take great pleasure in coming back to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted May 18, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, av1 said: As opposed to the 2 cheating barstewarding sides that got knocked out. Very nearly bankrupted yourselves to get promoted. Got a billionaire owner to rescue you. Seem to have gone all or nothing again. You dont go up then you are totally screwed by the looks of it hence lucky barstewards. Any club that has John Terry can't take the moral high ground And Dean Smith while i think he is a good manager has very selective views on fair play . . . . Edited May 18, 2019 by Cjay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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