tomav84 Posted January 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 feeling very despondent with it all today - cant help but think it's all over for us in terms of promotion. the west brom last min goal, the capitulation vs leeds, the awful performances vs preston and qpr. i honestly see that as min 7 points dropped (if we're being generous and giving leeds a point). christ we were a pen save away from **** it up vs swansea too. i can see us looking back at the festive period in may as to where it all went wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Merson08 said: Thought for the day: If games were decided by teams that scored the first goal, Villa would be top of the league with an 11 point gap. Last season we very rarely dropped points when took the lead. Problem was we rarely got points if went behind. Anyone missing Bruce yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If Tammy goes, any chance of promotion is gone for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I still feel like we'll more than likely make the playoffs, but the automatic spots are gone bar an insane run of form. Losing Tammy really hurts but we'll still keep scoring, we just need to stop turning leads into 2-2 draws ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: I still feel like we'll more than likely make the playoffs, but the automatic spots are gone bar an insane run of form. Insane is the word. To get the points tally of last season's 2nd place team (90) we'd need 52 points from 20 games. 2.6 PPG Or a minimum of: 17 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses / 16 wins and 4 draws. It aint gonna happen. And to be honest it's been a while since it was a realistic possibility, imo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, Farlz said: If Tammy goes, any chance of promotion is gone for me. I don’t think you were ever in with a chance to be honest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: I don’t think you were ever in with a chance to be honest I'm not so sure Dave, I had him down to be there or thereabouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I'm not so sure Dave, I had him down to be there or thereabouts! You must stop employing Brucie’s script writer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Insane is the word. To get the points tally of last season's 2nd place team (90) we'd need 52 points from 20 games. 2.6 PPG Or a minimum of: 17 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses / 16 wins and 4 draws. It aint gonna happen. And to be honest it's been a while since it was a realistic possibility, imo. Whilst I agree that it won't happen I don't think 90 points will be the target. More like mid 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: I still feel like we'll more than likely make the playoffs, but the automatic spots are gone bar an insane run of form. Losing Tammy really hurts but we'll still keep scoring, we just need to stop turning leads into 2-2 draws ffs. If we play like we have the past 3 games we will be nowhere near playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 We've missed the chance for top two now. If we'd won the last three we would have been in with a chance of the league still but we've missed our chance. We need to ensure top six is guaranteed with a could of games to go so that we can rest a few key players before the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 As I've been pontificating in the Abraham thread, I think people are very much overstating the likelihood of making the playoffs. And of course, you have a roughly 75% chance of failing even if you make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Obviously i want us to do well and win as many games as we can, I hate it when we lose. But....The logical side of me doesn't really want to get promoted this season, I think we need the rest of this season and pre season to bed in DS's system and style, replace quite a few players and get them firing etc, and really develop in to an exciting possession based team. If all goes well I can see us being something quite impressive next season, and hopefully get promoted with a proper team playing in a proper fashion, how we were last season and at times this season we would get totally battered in the prem, at least giving another 12 months to get the new coaching And management team settled in properly, as well as the players they want to play the system they want, is logically probably the best thing. We have tried and failed to do it fast and rough, now let's do it right If not, well then it will just feel like the previous 10 years for me Edited January 2, 2019 by MaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Obviously i want us to do well and win as many games as we can, I hate it when we lose. But....The logical side of me doesn't really want to get promoted this season, I think we need the rest of this season and pre season to bed in DS's system and style, replace quite a few players and get them firing etc, and really develop in to an exciting possession based team. If all goes well I can see us being something quite impressive next season, and hopefully get promoted with a proper team playing in a proper fashion, how we were last season and at times this season we would get totally battered in the prem, at least giving another 12 months to get the new coaching And management team settled in properly, as well as the players they want to play the system they want, is logically probably the best thing. We have tried and failed to do it fast and rough, now let's do it right If not, well then it will just feel like the previous 10 years for me And then there's Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: And then there's Wolves Granted, but they were a much better team last year than we were or are currently, which is why I mean hopefully next season we can be at a similar level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Granted, but they were a much better team last year than we were or are currently, which is why I mean hopefully next season we can be at a similar level. Don't go up and we will be extremely lucky to replace Abraham next season with someone who scores as many at this level. We need to take advantage of his goals whilst we have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Fundamentally as we all know it's that ridiculous start frim bruce that has cost us. As always ww having to play catch up. Anyone noticed the last three seasons we have started absplutely dreadful. Not one of those seasons have we started well. I think that is the main reasons we are where we are. Hopefully next year we can actually have a half decent start. Bruce should have lame a manager he was. Couldn't have had a easier start yet only manages a couple of wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: As I've been pontificating in the Abraham thread, I think people are very much overstating the likelihood of making the playoffs. And of course, you have a roughly 75% chance of failing even if you make them. It depends on getting Grealish back soon, getting a few decent players in and getting back to winning ways. None of which are far fetched. In fact, I think all are quite likely. We just need one or two less errors per game and we win the vast majority and climb the table. No guarantees, but Im still confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2019 I'm impressed with the speed at which changes are being made this window - this makes me think a LOT of work has been put in behind the scenes for some time, and I fully expect us to get the players we need to get to the play-offs - rather than mucking about at the end of the window like in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Good thing for us is that hopefully Jack should be back for when we have a tougher set of fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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