villan_007 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: Where've you out heard this? Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: This. I actually think we defended quite well last night. It's just that every time we defended something, we just hoofed it forward and it came straight back at us. It was constant pressure, and you have to have an exceptional defence, or exceptional luck, to keep a clean sheet in those circumstances. Defence isn't the problem. A constant lack of possession and outlets is the problem. Whilst I agree to an extent, I do think apparent leaders such as Terry and Chester should be shouting at the midfield to get up the pitch and alleviate some of the pressure. Our tactics are undoubtedly poor under Steve Bruce, but I can't for one minute imagine he sees the midfield sitting on top of the defence and thinks "that's it boys, invite all the pressure". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: Whilst I agree to an extent, I do think apparent leaders such as Terry and Chester should be shouting at the midfield to get up the pitch and alleviate some of the pressure. Our tactics are undoubtedly poor under Steve Bruce, but I can't for one minute imagine he sees the midfield sitting on top of the defence and thinks "that's it boys, invite all the pressure". He doesn't though. Watch him during the game. He spends most of it shouting at the midfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 What do they do in training then? Maybe he needs a more hands on approach to train them not to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He doesn't though. Watch him during the game. He spends most of it shouting at the midfield! Who doesn't do what? :| 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: Who doesn't do what? :| never mind. I misread your post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Sorry - but the sooner JT is gone the better. He can't be doing 3 days at a villa - what kind of a message does that send to the other players. I sense his presence (or non presence) is a significant factor in our poor start... Get rid villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Could Be Rotterdam Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 If it's true that he is only with us three days a week then it needs to stop immediately! He's either our player or not. He's our captain, he should be on the training pitch every day helping the players sort this out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't really care. it's his performances I care about and so far I'm ok with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don't really care. it's his performances I care about and so far I'm ok with them. Baker was 'OK' we needed Terry to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, hippo said: Baker was 'OK' we needed Terry to be great. I didn't say terry was ok, I said I was ok with his performances. We're three games in, we can't judge how good or bad a signing this has been. It might turn out to be horrendous. But so far I think Terry has played very well vs Hull, not great vs Cardiff and decent last night. That's fine. it's not spectacular, but the whole team is playing terribly. It's certainly too soon to be writing him off and getting rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Terry is being paid decent wages by villa - he should be 100% training as other players are and not sitting around Stamford bridge in ice baths - he's villa captain now not Chelsea - he should lead by example ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Chester has looked terrible alongside him so far. That's a big problem. We know Chester is much better than he's showing but he just hasn't clicked the way he did with Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) He could be better, but I wouldn't exactly blame him for much. Chester has really gone off the boil so far this season and as far as last night was concerned, it looked to me that De Laet was at fault for the goals. Chester and shit right backs have been the cause of our issues so far. The main issue is that I really wouldn't trust Samba and Elphick to step in. If we would have kept Baker then I'd be all for Terry and Baker at the back for now, with Bree stepping into right back. Edited August 16, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, hippo said: He can't be doing 3 days at a villa - what kind of a message does that send to the other players. I sense his presence (or non presence) is a significant factor in our poor start... It's a touch embarrassing for all concerned that he's back at Stamford bridge for ice baths as it appears that he's not really committed to the cause. However 'his presence (or non presence)' is not a significant factor in our poor start, our manager is the significant factor in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 All this training at Cobham is horse shit IMO, he probably went to have an ice bath on his day off and it has been blown way out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The website does not look all the credible.. If there is substance to this then someone needs to have a **** word!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, jim said: All this training at Cobham is horse shit IMO, he probably went to have an ice bath on his day off and it has been blown way out of proportion. He isn't training. He goes there for his recovery which is for 3 days. Its in the link with quotes. Maybe thats ok as it's where he lives. But kind of feels like a lack of squad unity. Im sure we have ice baths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I wonder how many training sessions it took before he realised he had absolutely **** himself. Would love to have been a fly on the wall in that dressing room last night at half time, and saw his reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 hours ago, villan_007 said: He isn't training. He goes there for his recovery which is for 3 days. Its in the link with quotes. Maybe thats ok as it's where he lives. But kind of feels like a lack of squad unity. Im sure we have ice baths. The quotes aren't from Terry, the club or Chelsea. It appears that it's just Rosenier saying that. Without knowing the full circumstances surrounding it it's hard to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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