Genie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Is Russia going to officially declare war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Genie said: Is Russia going to officially declare war? No one ever declares war anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 If I’m one of those 300,000 now, I’m palling up with another conscript, somehow trying to get hold of some plain clothes and disappearing somewhere at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Interesting that Yevgeny Prigozhin is now so openly admitting to his involvement in Wagner. And now this: I wonder how long it will be until one of Putin's inner circle makes a move on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Genie said: Is Russia going to officially declare war? Whilst it's obvious to the world minus some Russians that Russia is already at war, I think it isn't in Putin's interest to formally declare war against a country (or areas within) that he is claiming protection of the Russian speaking/sympathiser citizens there. Putin will know he's best seen by the Russian population as leading a 'special military operation' to protect civilians like minded to Russians from evil neo-Nazis, than declaring war on a country they see as their own anyway. A controlled population is likely to believe a 'special military operation' is much less scary, perhaps even righteous or cool, than war. Plus, the video @desensitized43posted makes a lot of reasons against any country formally declaring war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Imagine how fast they'll surrender, will it be before or after they shoot their own commanding officer in the back. Could be a challenge, as the officers will be behind them, with the guns. The conscripts will be up front, with knives tied to broom handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Imagine how fast they'll surrender, will it be before or after they shoot their own commanding officer in the back. It’s easy to say this, but sadly the Russians have been press-ganging people off the street in the occupied regions for months now. They know how to stop them deserting or surrendering - that’s what the Chechens are for. It all falls apart if there’s a big battle but when the frontline is fairly static I don’t think it’s easy for Russians to get out even if they really don’t want to be there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ml1dch said: This may well be the same chap, or if not he's saying very similar: That's the guy. He seems to know his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously an internal uprising against this terrible regime is a good thing overall. But are they against the war? Or just against having to be the ones on the battlefield? They were mainly very quiet when Russia displaced millions of people. Quiet when schools, hospitals and tower blocks and entire towns destroyed. Quiet with the stories of large scale torture and rape of women of all ages. Quiet at the news of tens of thousands killed. Now with the prospect of being sent over the border they have found their voices. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Don't know where its from or who said it but someone shared this with me Ukrainians returned to their country to fight. Russians are leaving theirs so they won’t have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Genie said: I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously an internal uprising against this terrible regime is a good thing overall. But are they against the war? Or just against having to be the ones on the battlefield? They were mainly very quiet when Russia displaced millions of people. Quiet when schools, hospitals and tower blocks and entire towns destroyed. Quiet with the stories of large scale torture and rape of women of all ages. Quiet at the news of tens of thousands killed. Now with the prospect of being sent over the border they have found their voices. Well, protesting under a strong putin, strong chance of imprisonment or worse protesting under a weak putin but with almost certain risk of death in war. They've got less to lose now by protesting I guess is the generous way of looking at it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 hours ago, sidcow said: Bless him but I can't be the only person who finds this photo a bit creepy? Not really chap. He was out there doing animal charity work wasn’t he or was that another guy? Even if it wasn’t him it’s just a guy holding a dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Genie said: I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously an internal uprising against this terrible regime is a good thing overall. But are they against the war? Or just against having to be the ones on the battlefield? They were mainly very quiet when Russia displaced millions of people. Quiet when schools, hospitals and tower blocks and entire towns destroyed. Quiet with the stories of large scale torture and rape of women of all ages. Quiet at the news of tens of thousands killed. Now with the prospect of being sent over the border they have found their voices. Depends on what awareness they have to the wider picture what with their censored media and internet. Plus, y’know, torture and imprisonment for protesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Private Eye latest issue Edited September 22, 2022 by tonyh29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Lol....Most of these will never have stepped foot outside Siberia never mind knowing much about Ukraine. How desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I am surprised how casually people are responding to Putin’s threats. I know it wasn’t a bomb, but the guy has already technically used nuclear weapons on civilians. On British soil. This is much closer to WWIII than I think a few of you are ready to acknowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Enda said: I am surprised how casually people are responding to Putin’s threats. I know it wasn’t a bomb, but the guy has already technically used nuclear weapons on civilians. On British soil. This is much closer to WWIII than I think a few of you are ready to acknowledge. Meh, we can't do anything about it so why worry? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Hasn't he threatened to use Nukes again, or was it just the news bringing it back to the top story after that death we had. I'm think his own might take him out soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Enda said: I am surprised how casually people are responding to Putin’s threats. I know it wasn’t a bomb, but the guy has already technically used nuclear weapons on civilians. On British soil. This is much closer to WWIII than I think a few of you are ready to acknowledge. We've had threads on WWIII about to start as long as there has been a VT ... I won't say it isn't going to happen , but I'd put it at a 1% chance , and that's a lower risk of death than going bareback in the Eden Club, Bangkok Edited September 22, 2022 by tonyh29 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted September 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: going bareback in the Eden Club, Bangkok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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