Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, heffoman said: Was thinking the exact same. Some of those comments above are just stupid. How? Can you lot not comprehend the fact that Coleman went in with alot of force aided to the violence of the injury? No one was trying to justify the tackle, just making a FACTUAL observation about the incident. As someone else said terrible tackles go in all the time, and a number of variables affect whether the sustained injuries are minor, critical, shocking. Or if an injury is sustained at all. If someone headbutts you, would the injury be more catastrophic if you were both headbutting each other at force at the same time, or if it was a one way headbutt? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: How? Can you lot not comprehend the fact that Coleman went in with alot of force aided to the violence of the injury? No one was trying to justify the tackle, just making a FACTUAL observation about the incident. As someone else said terrible tackles go in all the time, and a number of variables affect whether the sustained injuries are minor, critical, shocking. Or if an injury is sustained at all. If someone headbutts you, would the injury be more catastrophic if you were both headbutting each other at force at the same time, or if it was a one way headbutt? Would you also be open minded and willing to consider that going in recklessly high when the ball is not on the floor ( watch it again if you disagree ) is also a variable in a leg break ? . Just asking your honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Rather our players be doing the breaking than getting broken legs in all honesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, heffoman said: Was thinking the exact same. Some of those comments above are just stupid. Care to elaborate on what you mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted March 25, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think the injury is shocking; I'm not sure the tackle is. Without the injury it'd be spoken of as reckless and would probably still have earned the red card, but it's not a tackle that people would talk about for weeks other than because of its result. Tackles like this produce bad injuries maybe one time in fifty - they're a bad judgement, a player reaching for a ball that was too far away at a speed that means there's a risk in the collision - bad judgment, not malice. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) Mistimed tackle and late rather than malicious - sad to see for both parties as Taylor looked quite upset by it , nice to see Keane not react on the touch line too. Edited March 25, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 When looking at this tackle, I'm not sure why some people have decided that they need to announce a worse tackle they can think of from the last 10-15 years. It's irrelevant and pointless. If you remember a tackle for being bad, it's because of how bad it was, not because it's an acceptable, everyday part of the game. I just don't get the logic Person 1: "that tackle on Coleman was horrendous the other night wasn't it?" Person 2: "yeah it was, but do you remember that tackle for November 2011? Similar challenge but player tackled was okay, played on" Person 1: "fantastic, I'll let Coleman know to get on the training field tomorrow and for UEFA to forget the ban in that case" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 A sad day for all concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I think the injury is shocking; I'm not sure the tackle is. Without the injury it'd be spoken of as reckless and would probably still have earned the red card, but it's not a tackle that people would talk about for weeks other than because of its result. Tackles like this produce bad injuries maybe one time in fifty - they're a bad judgement, a player reaching for a ball that was too far away at a speed that means there's a risk in the collision - bad judgment, not malice. E.g. Luc Nilis Edited March 25, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 Why would any Villa fan even give a **** that some Everton player got injured playing football. Unless you are Irish of course. This is a contact sport, people get injured. So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted March 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Why would any Villa fan even give a **** that some Everton player got injured playing football. Unless you are Irish of course. This is a contact sport, people get injured. So what? Its not about being Irish.....its more about being Human and sporting. No normal thinking person wants to see ANY player on the receiving end of an injury like that. I think it's very sad , personally I would like to think if it was one of our players with a broken leg, they would get a compassionate response. I sincerely hope he gets well.....and soon. Edited March 25, 2017 by TRO 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted March 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Why would any Villa fan even give a **** that some Everton player got injured playing football. Unless you are Irish of course. This is a contact sport, people get injured. So what? Isn't it just basic human empathy? **edit** pretty much what TRO said. Edited March 25, 2017 by Designer1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Designer1 said: Isn't it just basic human empathy? Seriously, after watching comic relief last night I think I'll save my "compassion" and "human empathy" for people who are dying of starvation as opposed to a multl millionaire footballer, who has injury that will keep him off work for a few months whilst still being paid a fortune. I really think people are seriously overreacting to this and its pretty ridiculous. Edited March 25, 2017 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 4 hours ago, Jareth said: Rather our players be doing the breaking than getting broken legs in all honesty. Remember Amavi had his leg broken? Can we retroactively call for the player who broke his legs' blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Seriously, after watching comic relief last night I think I'll save my "compassion" and "human empathy" for people who are dying of starvation as opposed to a multl millionaire footballer who had injury that will keep him off work for a few months whilst still being paid a fortune. Wow......two wrongs, don't make one right. your first comment is commendable......your second, cynical IMO. He gets paid as a result of market forces......He is still suffering mate and may lose his career. Poor comparison IMV. Edited March 25, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, TRO said: Wow......two wrongs, don't make one right. your first comment is commendable......your second, cynical IMO. He gets paid as a result of market forces......He is still suffering mate and may lose his career. Poor comparison IMV. I think we will have to just agree to disagree. He is a footballer. Footballers get injured. I am sure he will survive and I wont be losing any sleep over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 He's done him. He might not have intended to break Coleman's leg (only thugs like Keane, Barton and Jones are truly that vile) but when you go over the ball like that, it's not a misstimed tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, HolteExile said: He's done him. He might not have intended to break Coleman's leg (only thugs like Keane, Barton and Jones are truly that vile) but when you go over the ball like that, it's not a misstimed tackle. Sorry, but to me thats almost like saying, when a striker skies a penalty or shot, they did it on purpose. They may only have intended to hit the bar, but skied it instead. Football is not like chess where you get time to see the other persons move, and then make yours. In the heat of the moment , and with adrenaline, mistiming and judgement can be erroneous. Edited March 25, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) You catch an opponent that high up his leg and the ball is a secondary consideration. We don't like to think of our players as capable of behaving that way, but last night Taylor did. Bale had done the exact thing only moments earlier and only got a yellow, so it seems like Wales had been instructed to step up the rough stuff second half. I'm pretty certain Chris Coleman wasn't calling for broken legs, but there we are. He'll now have two of his better players missing in probably the hardest away game in the group and tossed away the chance of three points last night when Ireland pre sending off were there for the taking. Edited March 25, 2017 by HolteExile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted March 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2017 **player in getting injured shocker!** Seriously, it's happened before it will happen again, bad tackle and punished with red card appropriately, nothing more to see here people. I hope Taylor sees it this way too, would hate for it to affect him as it seems to have to so many of you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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