HanoiVillan Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: When you have a rubbish team, which there's no escaping we are at the moment, then I value work rate very very highly. Add in the set pieces and the smattering of goals and he'd be one of the first names on the team sheet for me. Doesn't mean he's amazing, just means he's better than the rest. And I don't think there's many people who would rather have Bjarnasson, Lansbury or Onomah in that role. He's definitely way better than two of them (possibly all three) and he's definitely got a better attitude than some of them. Hourihane is the least of our problems. Especially at this level. I don't disagree. He should start. But I do disagree with people who keep saying he's an attacking midfielder. He isn't. He's too one-footed and can't pick a through-ball. I was sat in the upper Doug near the Holte so I had an excellent view of Hourihane, Bjarnason and Taylor repeatedly failing to create a chance or put a decent ball into the box. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Just now, HanoiVillan said: I don't disagree. He should start. But I do disagree with people who keep saying he's an attacking midfielder. He isn't. He's too one-footed and can't pick a through-ball. I was sat in the upper Doug near the Holte so I had an excellent view of Hourihane, Bjarnason and Taylor repeatedly failing to create a chance or put a decent ball into the box. Yeah I was sat roughly the same place, there was a time when we were on the break and Taylor was completely free on the left and he didn't even look in that direction and just shot, despite a defender right in front of him so it was inevitably blocked. Really needs to start looking at the picture around him, I remember Merson used to look around and have a idea of where everyone was before he even received the ball. I'm not saying he needs to be as good as Merse, but that ball today through to Taylor would have had him clean through on goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thought he was my motm. Continually wanted the ball, and always finds space on the edge of the box. He's not a number 10, just a good attacking mid. Unfortunately when onomah is beside you, you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 13 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I don't disagree. He should start. But I do disagree with people who keep saying he's an attacking midfielder. He isn't. He's too one-footed and can't pick a through-ball. I was sat in the upper Doug near the Holte so I had an excellent view of Hourihane, Bjarnason and Taylor repeatedly failing to create a chance or put a decent ball into the box. I've been saying this for months, I'm glad more people are seeing it. He's pretty good at crossing and good at set pieces, shooting and can arrive late in the box and get a shot off in space. But his through-balls are either poor or just non-existent. He often doesn't see the pass and elects to play the simple ball, and contrary to what some say this isn't Bruce's fault, it's just a fundamental flaw in Hourihane's game. He's a solid player, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I've been saying this for months, I'm glad more people are seeing it. He's pretty good at crossing and good at set pieces, shooting and can arrive late in the box and get a shot off in space. But his through-balls are either poor or just non-existent. He often doesn't see the pass and elects to play the simple ball, and contrary to what some say this isn't Bruce's fault, it's just a fundamental flaw in Hourihane's game. He's a solid player, that's about it. Fair summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 34 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I've been saying this for months, I'm glad more people are seeing it. He's pretty good at crossing and good at set pieces, shooting and can arrive late in the box and get a shot off in space. But his through-balls are either poor or just non-existent. He often doesn't see the pass and elects to play the simple ball, and contrary to what some say this isn't Bruce's fault, it's just a fundamental flaw in Hourihane's game. He's a solid player, that's about it. He doesn't really hit the ball forward with any pace or purpose, it is usually an under hit side foot easily cut out. His delivery from set pieces is decent but his delivery from open play in wide areas is abysmal. Saying that, that is the level we are at and he is probably still one of the best all rounders in the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I've been saying this for months, I'm glad more people are seeing it. He's pretty good at crossing and good at set pieces, shooting and can arrive late in the box and get a shot off in space. But his through-balls are either poor or just non-existent. He often doesn't see the pass and elects to play the simple ball, and contrary to what some say this isn't Bruce's fault, it's just a fundamental flaw in Hourihane's game. He's a solid player, that's about it. Agreed 100%. The idea that he’s one of the best midfielders in the division is laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He doesn't really hit the ball forward with any pace or purpose, it is usually an under hit side foot easily cut out. His delivery from set pieces is decent but his delivery from open play in wide areas is abysmal. Saying that, that is the level we are at and he is probably still one of the best all rounders in the division I genuinely don't know, he could well be, such is the lack of quality at this level. 6 goals and 2 assists for a central midfielder isn't bad at all half way into a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 He is a top player in this league. Massive improvement from the gardner/westwood combo we had previously. With Grealish infront and jedinak behind he does a very good job of helping out with both attack and defence and his work rate is excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 09:23, Junxs said: Yeah I was sat roughly the same place, there was a time when we were on the break and Taylor was completely free on the left and he didn't even look in that direction and just shot, despite a defender right in front of him so it was inevitably blocked. Really needs to start looking at the picture around him, I remember Merson used to look around and have a idea of where everyone was before he even received the ball. I'm not saying he needs to be as good as Merse, but that ball today through to Taylor would have had him clean through on goal. I heard a similar compliment of Fabregas, that he is always taking a look around and assessing where players are around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hornso said: I heard a similar compliment of Fabregas, that he is always taking a look around and assessing where players are around him. Yeh but he's from Catalonia. It's in his DNA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Get somebody to look at you, the way Conor looks at Jack 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I didn’t think Hourihane wildly celebrated his goal yesterday as to not upset the Barnsley fans but certainly didn’t not celebrate at all! He looked well chuffed with both scoring and the play leading up to it by Grealish. i was impressed to see the team celebrating as a unit after each goal - showed there’s real signs of togetherness in the camp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 You can't but celebrate that goal. Brilliant from Grealish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: I didn’t think Hourihane wildly celebrated his goal yesterday as to not upset the Barnsley fans but certainly didn’t not celebrate at all! He looked well chuffed with both scoring and the play leading up to it by Grealish. i was impressed to see the team celebrating as a unit after each goal - showed there’s real signs of togetherness in the camp. I think he knew it was a formality to actually score the thing. The goal totally belonged to Jack and I think he was just acknowledging that. He was just the one who put it in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Dick said: lol Ouch! Talk about bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I think it's quite funny how precious football fans get about aplayer celebrating when they score. against their old club 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think it's quite funny how precious football fans get about aplayer celebrating when they score. against their old club Yeah I agree. Also to add, it was not like he did an Adebayor, he could not have been further from the away fans and kept it to an understated celebration in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, NeilS said: Yeah I agree. Also to add, it was not like he did an Adebayor, he could not have been further from the away fans and kept it to an understated celebration in my opinion. Totally agree. I thought he underplayed it. I assumed it was out of respect for his old team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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