VanDerVaart Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, av1 said: So you buy a relatively limited footballer whose main attributes suit an attacking midfield role, and then shoehorn the kid in as deep lying midfielder next to the even more limited Glen Whelan. Is it any wonder the kid isn't showing the kind of form he showed at Barnsley? Somewhat ironically you also have Onomah, whose main attributes actually do suit a deep-lying midfield role, being shoehorned into attacking positions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, VanDerVaart said: Somewhat ironically you also have Onomah, whose main attributes actually do suit a deep-lying midfield role, being shoehorned into attacking positions. This. Been wondering about this for a while now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, VanDerVaart said: Somewhat ironically you also have Onomah, whose main attributes actually do suit a deep-lying midfield role, being shoehorned into attacking positions. Thats what worries me about Bruce. Look I'm not saying all these guys are great players (I'm not a fan of Onamah) but playing them out of position is certainly not helping them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 without him or Lansbury in midfield we actually looked hopeless. Least he tries the odd forward pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 is he injured? 75% Orange Inj icon? Otherwise I can’t fathom how he didn’t get any minutes tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Likes to pass forward, we play Brentford who will leave space for passing into. So Bruce dropes Hourihane and plays two defensive midfielders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Wouldn't have made a difference tbh, his forward passing is poor and he often elects to go backwards or sidewards. That said I'd be interested in seeing him play for a more positive manager who isn't a total tactical buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 19 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Wouldn't have made a difference tbh, his forward passing is poor and he often elects to go backwards or sidewards. That said I'd be interested in seeing him play for a more positive manager who isn't a total tactical buffoon. Because nobody is ahead of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I've seen many say that Hourihane should be played further up the field as he can score goals. So how does this work in practise when we are trying to break down a team with 10 men behind the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 27/12/2017 at 12:29, Dick said: Likes to pass forward, we play Brentford who will leave space for passing into. So Bruce dropes Hourihane and plays two defensive midfielders. He starts a lot of breaks and gets forward on the counter so would have been perfect for the Brentford game. So unless he was injured he wouldn't have been left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2018 Worked really hard today , him had Grealish kept pushing all match , well done Hourihane, started to look like the player we brought . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 No surprise that we play him in a more advanced position and he plays well. Jedi really gives him the security to push forward. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, omariqy said: No surprise that we play him in a more advanced position and he plays well. Jedi really gives him the security to push forward. Totally agree. Has to cover for whelan because whelan doesn't really tackle. Has more freedom to go forward with Jedi. Thought he was full of energy and offered attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Stratvillan said: Totally agree. Has to cover for whelan because whelan doesn't really tackle. Has more freedom to go forward with Jedi. Thought he was full of energy and offered attacking threat. I'm not sure its down to Whelan not getting stuck in, i think it's more to do with the fact that Whelan isn't as disciplined as Jedinak. Whelan gets pulled out of position to easily which leaves gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, av1 said: I'm not sure its down to Whelan not getting stuck in, i think it's more to do with the fact that Whelan isn't as disciplined as Jedinak. Whelan gets pulled out of position to easily which leaves gaps. Would agree, he runs side to side, and hourihane has too be where he isn't. At least jedi goes to the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Surprised to see him starting today. Thought we'd rest him as integral to first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2018 He strikes me as a player that’s as fit as a butchers dog and could play all day. I just hope he doesn’t pick up a knock! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 4 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Surprised to see him starting today. Thought we'd rest him as integral to first team Is he? Don't see what he brings to be honest with you, can you enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Is he? Don't see what he brings to be honest with you, can you enlighten me? Set pieces and workrate. It's certainly not creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Set pieces and workrate. It's certainly not creativity. When you have a rubbish team, which there's no escaping we are at the moment, then I value work rate very very highly. Add in the set pieces and the smattering of goals and he'd be one of the first names on the team sheet for me. Doesn't mean he's amazing, just means he's better than the rest. And I don't think there's many people who would rather have Bjarnasson, Lansbury or Onomah in that role. He's definitely way better than two of them (possibly all three) and he's definitely got a better attitude than some of them. Hourihane is the least of our problems. Especially at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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