rodders0223 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think it's worth remembering that Johnstone is only 23 years old, not even close to the peak age for a goalkeeper, he will improve over time no doubt Not necessarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 sure the excuse was Gollini was young and he was going to get better in Johnstone defence he has made one mistake in games that I have seen him play and that was vs Wolves and even then it was dreadful defending that allowed the error to happen. He isnt brilliant but I think he is getting a hard time on here for the fact he is a loanee. Gollini was as bad and got defended as he had potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think it's worth remembering that Johnstone is only 23 years old, not even close to the peak age for a goalkeeper, he will improve over time no doubt The same could be said for Gollini, but even you wrote him off, and he was 2 years younger - more time on hi side and he actually belonged to us. I was really amazed we signed this player, ok at least he hasn't made any real clanger, but at least Gollini saved some shots eg Leeds game he made some top saves. Johnstone reminds me of Carson, does the basics of goalkeeping pretty well, but doesn't save anything not thats straight at him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 We needed an experienced keeper. Why didnt we go get a decent experienced keeper. Id rather Bunn than this fella at the moment. I hope he gets better but he looks awful so far. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Smithies or the keeper from Fulham are both decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 He doesn't talk to the defence either... Looks mute, there were positional mistakes aplenty and he didn't give instruction. Gollini was better no doubt, some great shot stopping at least, saved some nailed on goals one on one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Junxs said: The same could be said for Gollini, but even you wrote him off, and he was 2 years younger - more time on hi side and he actually belonged to us. I was really amazed we signed this player, ok at least he hasn't made any real clanger, but at least Gollini saved some shots eg Leeds game he made some top saves. Johnstone reminds me of Carson, does the basics of goalkeeping pretty well, but doesn't save anything not thats straight at him Exactly this ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 8 hours ago, AshVilla said: Smithies or the keeper from Fulham are both decent I think Smithies will be our top target in the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I dont care about Johnstones potential or hwo he will improve with age. We have him on loan, we need good now. Pointless bringing him in instead of Gollini unless Gollini was kicking off about losing an Italian Goalkeeper coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 2, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2017 If we're complaining that keepers aren't saving shots that "aren't impossible to save" then we're going to be complaining a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 A keeper 'who doesn't make saves' is a modern invention pushed the innovator who is Pep Guardiola. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 21 hours ago, Eastie said: I think the ratio of shots to goals he has conceded makes many of us feel if a team has a shot on target the chances are it will probably be a goal If our defence continue to just split and allow one-on-ones then, yes, his shots to goals ratio will be poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: If we're complaining that keepers aren't saving shots that "aren't impossible to save" then we're going to be complaining a lot Given, Guzan, Gollini didn't have problems making excellent saves. it was the other parts of their game that they seemed to lack. You can normally tell a quality of a keeper by seeing how close they were to saving it, Johnstone isn't getting anywhere near the goals he's letting in. I'm hoping for some real improvement in the next game or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 2, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Junxs said: You can normally tell a quality of a keeper by seeing how close they were to saving it, Johnstone isn't getting anywhere near the goals he's letting in. I mean, I'm not defending Johnstone. I don't think he's been that great (even though I think people are being overly harsh as usual) But what I've quoted just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 He's had a rough start to his Villa career and I just hope he manages to turn it around over the next few games before he becomes the next scapegoat now that Guzan and Westwood have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 don't remember people saying how Bosnich would improve when he hit the first team at the ripe old age of 20 .....he was already the real deal. Best keeper I've seen at VP - and that includes Rimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I don't remember Bosnich all that well, but whenever I watch old highlights he seems to have confidence, almost arrogance, about himself. Johnstone looks terrified of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I won't judge Johnstone on my brief viewing of him, as I only saw him against Brentford and the conditions were not good for goalkeepers. His stats from all of his games so far don't look good though, and need to improve as they say a good goalkeeper will win you xx amount of points over the season. Bosnich had that Aussie swagger about him. I agree with hippo in that he was probably the best keeper in my time of supporting Villa, which also goes back as far as Rimmer. He did have his weaknesses though, and his kicking still gives me nightmares, I still see him kicking it straight to Le Tiss in the last minute for a Saints equaliser. Bosnich however made world class saves that won more matches, than his kicking lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Bosnich was by far the best I've seen play for us, no question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Bosnich was by far the best I've seen play for us, no question. Agreed Spink was excellent as well. I think he was underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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