fightoffyour Posted December 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) The only argument that I can understand for sticking with Bruce at this point is the question of who to replace him with and the uncertainty that comes with a new manager. Surely no one can think that our results and especially performances are acceptable. However even that argument is waning, since we are only looking capable of scraping a play off spot at best and would face any of the teams above us that we have consistently failed to beat. i would roll the dice. I don’t really have a suggestion for the next manager but that’s Round’s job not mine. At least we would all get behind Olof. Edited December 16, 2017 by fightoffyour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The chances of Bruce being sacked before the end of the season are about as high as Man City not to win the league. It is not going to happen. A defeat seems to generate far more comments than 2,3 wins on the bounce on this site. I am more positive than negative at the moment- though that seems to be the minority on here. If we go on a bad run now then yeah obviously that could ruin the season but I would like to think we are made of stronger stuff this year. Terry will be back soon which will be a big bonus, Davis might improve with a week off and Sheffield United are on a bad run. 2 wins over Christmas could well change the mood music again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We're already on a bad run. Everyone and his mother can see we won't ever get promoted playing this turgid football. It's a gamble to replace Bruce now, but one that we need to take if promotion is the aim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The chances of Bruce being sacked before the end of the season are about as high as Man City not to win the league. It is not going to happen. A defeat seems to generate far more comments than 2,3 wins on the bounce on this site. I am more positive than negative at the moment- though that seems to be the minority on here. If we go on a bad run now then yeah obviously that could ruin the season but I would like to think we are made of stronger stuff this year. Terry will be back soon which will be a big bonus, Davis might improve with a week off and Sheffield United are on a bad run. 2 wins over Christmas could well change the mood music again. Do you actually watch the games though? Even when we win we rarely play well. That is the crux of the matter for me. If you play well then eventually things will work out for you despite results! If you play poorly then, despite results, eventually you will be found out! We always get found out against the better teams. This is a poor league. We are competing with teams who are significantly inferior to us. I like Bruce. He is a decent human being. I want him to do well but unfortunately, in my view, he isn’t. I don’t want us to gamble though. We must have a top replacement ready before getting rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The chances of Bruce being sacked before the end of the season are about as high as Man City not to win the league. It is not going to happen. A defeat seems to generate far more comments than 2,3 wins on the bounce on this site. I am more positive than negative at the moment- though that seems to be the minority on here. If we go on a bad run now then yeah obviously that could ruin the season but I would like to think we are made of stronger stuff this year. Terry will be back soon which will be a big bonus, Davis might improve with a week off and Sheffield United are on a bad run. 2 wins over Christmas could well change the mood music again. Its important to try and cling to some positivity, but the reality is we have shown too many issues in games that we win and the standard of football is flat and lacks intensity.....our play is stuttery and uncertain and lacks cohesion. Most fans have clung to the result to give the benefit of the doubt, but at the same time aware of the fragility. Steve Bruce himself has said on occasion, you can judge a team on the quality of the strikers, with Kodjia excepted, i will pass. of course its feasible to build from the back....that being the case, we have an incompleted team Imo. I have seen things watching games and even when we have won, thought, that cannot continue if we are to make a mark and low and behold it has continued. I only hope there are some searching questions being asked behind the scenes at B6......because there needs to be. Edited December 16, 2017 by TRO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Do you actually watch the games though? Even when we win we rarely play well. That is the crux of the matter for me. If you play well then eventually things will work out for you despite results! If you play poorly then, despite results, eventually you will be found out! We always get found out against the better teams. This is a poor league. We are competing with teams who are significantly inferior to us. I like Bruce. He is a decent human being. I want him to do well but unfortunately, in my view, he isn’t. I don’t want us to gamble though. We must have a top replacement ready before getting rid. The last line is the crux for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Try the lateral route. Literally no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, vreitti said: We're already on a bad run. Everyone and his mother can see we won't ever get promoted playing this turgid football. It's a gamble to replace Bruce now, but one that we need to take if promotion is the aim. It's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just don't understand how we'll get promoted via playoffs as we'd have to beat the teams who finished atone that. We clearly are not capable of beating these teams with Bruce is charge I want him gone but have no clue who could replace him now. Sadly we are stuck with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 If Bruce had said in the post game ”not good enough was it. Clearly a couple incredibly foolish mistakes hurt us. Glenn’s was the most obvious. He’s an experienced pro and will be having a word with himself. But I’ll be having a word too. That kind of error simply cannot be repeated, but it has. We can’t ignore it. Less obvious was that what we set out to play, never came off. Players have to follow the plan or we can’t keep playing them. Those that didn’t will mostly raise their hand, but whether they do or don’t they’ll be hearing from me. Again, if a player can’t keep his head and work on the same plan as the whole team discussed, practiced and trained, that player can’t keep his spot in the team. And I need to hold my hand up too. Too many of the lads couldn’t work the plan today. That means that either the plan was bad, or I didn’t prepare them well enough. I’ll talk to my staff, we’ll figure it out. This kind of failure can’t happen again. Fortunately, we’ve got real talent and another chance coming up soon “ i’d be Willing to give him a chance. He didn’t. He never has Bruce out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, vreitti said: We're already on a bad run. Everyone and his mother can see we won't ever get promoted playing this turgid football. Not me. I don't think he's doing a particularly good job, especially at the moment. But I think we've still got a decent chance of going up, albeit via the lottery of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Maybe we need to exhibit more bravery like sunderland, they introduce josh maja 18 and bingo....these young guys are fearless, we need to try O'Hare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Not me. I don't think he's doing a particularly good job, especially at the moment. But I think we've still got a decent chance of going up, albeit via the lottery of the playoffs. He is not doing a very good job but you think he'll get us promoted. Not going to knock your opinion, but I can't share your optimism. At this point in time I think we're more likely to miss the playoffs altogether. I understand that's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'm probably the only one encouraged by today's game. I just saw us boss a game at the ground of one of the top teams in the league. Yes we lost the game but surely we gotta be happy with the performance? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just now, TRO said: Maybe we need to exhibit more bravery like sunderland, they introduce josh maja 18 and bingo....these young guys are fearless, we need to try O'Hare. Won't happen under Bruce, he wouldn't have played Davis unless he absolutely had to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Not me. I don't think he's doing a particularly good job, especially at the moment. But I think we've still got a decent chance of going up, albeit via the lottery of the playoffs. I think we've got a very good chance of getting into the playoffs but I think we'll be exposed badly in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Aston Wigan FC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bunnski said: Aston Wigan FC... BirmingHullWigerland United Edited December 16, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Very strange tactics today. A very very slow midfielder in defence. A midfielder in attack. Two very very wide attacking midfielders. Hoof the ball up the pitch. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: He is not doing a very good job but you think he'll get us promoted. Not going to knock your opinion, but I can't share your optimism. At this point in time I think we're more likely to miss the playoffs altogether. I understand that's my opinion. If we play like we are playing right now for the rest of the season then obviously we won’t make the playoffs. But we won’t. We’re on a shit run of form and we’re still 5th. I think we’ll pick back up and comfortably finish in the top 6. Whether we can then win the playoffs is up for debate. I wouldn’t be too confident but we’d have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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