Vive_La_Villa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, pacbuddies said: Well that would depend on what my expectations were at the start of the season so I will tell you. 1. Based on the number of players coming in and the amount of money spent since Bruce took over I expected automatic promotion. 2. With Steve Bruce as manager I expected failure. As '2' is the dominant factor here then you should be able to work out what my expectations were and still are. So you expected failure so won't be disappointed if we don't achieve it. Others like myself expect promotion so if it doesn't happen we'll be gutted. You're in a good place my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mykeyb Posted December 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) If Bruce thought we should play with a target man, why did he wait until he was practically forced to play Davis and more importantly why is it he didn't buy one last January after selling the only other player he had who could play that system and again didn't get one in during the summer? He stumbled onto it didn't he. I am back yet again to what is our system, Wolves will walk this league because the manager knows what he is doing, the players know what they are doing and even if the opposition try to stop them they continue and still look a threat. We can go 90 minutes without posing a threat. We at best will be in the playoffs and then Bruce has to start beating top 6 clubs to get promotion. Edited December 17, 2017 by mykeyb Spelling 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: So you expected failure so won't be disappointed if we don't achieve it. Others like myself expect promotion so if it doesn't happen we'll be gutted. You're in a good place my friend. I won't be in the slightest bit disappointed. I stopped being upset by Villa after relegation. I want them to win every game and be successful but I no longer think about them between games. The last 6 years or so has seen two owners that don't have a clue and more shit managers than I care to count so why should I depress myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, pacbuddies said: I won't be in the slightest bit disappointed. I stopped being upset by Villa after relegation. I want them to win every game and be successful but I no longer think about them between games. The last 6 years or so has seen two owners that don't have a clue and more shit managers than I care to count so why should I depress myself. Fair play but you sound in denial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 17, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, pacbuddies said: Well that would depend on what my expectations were at the start of the season so I will tell you. 1. Based on the number of players coming in and the amount of money spent since Bruce took over I expected automatic promotion. 2. With Steve Bruce as manager I expected failure. As '2' is the dominant factor here then you should be able to work out what my expectations were and still are. So what are you on about complaining that people have lowered their expectations to playoffs, when you’re expectations were even lower than that in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fair play but you sound in denial In Denial is thinking that we‘ll 1 - finish 2nd 2 - finish in the top 6 (possible) AND winning our way past 2 out of 3rd-6th in the table With Bruce in charge. Being 4th (briefly) is as good as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: In Denial is thinking that we‘ll 1 - finish 2nd 2 - finish in the top 6 (possible) AND winning our way past 2 out of 3rd-6th in the table With Bruce in charge. Being 4th (briefly) is as good as it gets. I still think 2 is possible. Looks very tricky and maybe even unlikely but it's not out the question. If you can't believe then what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fair play but you sound in denial Not at all. I have found another sporting interest that I enjoy more and look forward to and it doesn't ruin my weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: So what are you on about complaining that people have lowered their expectations to playoffs, when you’re expectations were even lower than that in the first place? Now you say I am 'complaining'. Before you said I was 'moaning'. I wish you would be consistent with your confusion. Edited December 17, 2017 by pacbuddies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 21 hours ago, Lerner's Driver said: Literally no point. Just like the Villa . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I still think 2 is possible. Looks very tricky and maybe even unlikely but it's not out the question. If you can't believe then what's the point? Belief is a misguided word. For one to „believe“, there has to be a „truth of fact“ I can believe in myself getting up from my couch to make a cup of coffee I can‘t believe in someone else doing it for me. I can ask in the most polite sweetest way, but if that said person either cant or doesnt want to, my belief is unfounded. I can also hope, pray.......whatever. BUT if that „task“ that be is beyond capability. it is not going to happen. It is beyond AVFC with Bruce in charge. Why do I think that? Because he has not got us to do or be that what is needed for the task at hand - Promotion Edited December 17, 2017 by Grasshopper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: In Denial is thinking that we‘ll 1 - finish 2nd 2 - finish in the top 6 (possible) AND winning our way past 2 out of 3rd-6th in the table With Bruce in charge. Being 4th (briefly) is as good as it gets. How fecking frustrating is that information ? You can feel the lack of confidence, throughout this thread ,in the manager ,regardless of if they support him or not . Even when we have the lions share of possession we still look clueless . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Belief is a misguided word. For one to „believe“, there has to be a „truth of fact“ I can believe in myself getting up from my couch to make a cup of coffee I can‘t believe in someone else doing it for me. I can ask in the most polite sweetest way, but if that said person either cant or doesnt want to, my belief is unfounded. I can also hope, pray.......whatever. BUT if that „task“ that be is beyond capability. it is not going to happen. It is beyond AVFC with Bruce in charge. Why do I think that? Because he has not got us to do or be that what is needed for the task at hand - Promotion Then why on earth spend so much time and emergy on the club if you have lost all hope and belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Belief is a misguided word. For one to „believe“, there has to be a „truth of fact“ I can believe in myself getting up from my couch to make a cup of coffee I can‘t believe in someone else doing it for me. I can ask in the most polite sweetest way, but if that said person either cant or doesnt want to, my belief is unfounded. I can also hope, pray.......whatever. BUT if that „task“ that be is beyond capability. it is not going to happen. It is beyond AVFC with Bruce in charge. Why do I think that? Because he has not got us to do or be that what is needed for the task at hand - Promotion Pass them Prozac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Then why on earth spend so much time and emergy on the club if you have lost all hope and belief? I love AVFC my Love for it has nothing to do with hope or belief in the FACT that the person who‘s responsibility it is to lead, direct and decide this team is absolutely F****** useless at it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: Making the playoffs is not acceptable. You don't get anything for making the playoffs. Promotion is the only acceptable result. Anything else is failure Harsh ,but true . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: I love AVFC my Love for it has nothing to do with hope or belief in the FACT that the person who‘s responsibility it is to lead, direct and decide this team is absolutely F****** useless at it You're just torturing yourself man. Take a break. Maybe when you come back he has been sacked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, pacbuddies said: Not at all. I have found another sporting interest that I enjoy more and look forward to and it doesn't ruin my weekends. And therein lies the long term cost of Bruce ball 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, srsmithusa said: And therein lies the long term cost of Bruce ball It‘s Bruce-Ball it‘s shyite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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