Troglodyte Posted September 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, srsmithusa said: So you think we play a forward thinking, attacking movement style? If Albert’s brother is right. Albert and I disagree with you. I wonder how many think we sometimes play with too much of a “defense first” mindset. How many think that mindset limits our offensive flow and movement? and you call that view hyperbole? Interesting perspective. I'm not quite sure exactly what a "forward thinking, attacking movement style" is, but I do think we play on the front foot more than some people claim. Yes I do think we end up sitting too deep when we're put on the back foot at times, though. However, all that aside, if you think I'm wrong to claim there is much hyperbole in this thread and elsewhere, you're deluded. Our style has looked largely poor so far this season, but it seems that in complaining about that some fans go so far over the top that they apparently expect us to constantly be on the front foot, without expecting most players to put a defensive shift in (and if they do, then that means we're not being ambitious enough) and for us to be putting flowing moves together all the time, regardless of confidence and quality. I also think that there's no way anyone associated with Albert should be making comments like those that have come out on a public forum. It hugely undermines our manager, whether you like him or not, which can have a detrimental effect more widely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think the manager has been remarkably patient with Albert. This is like he has just had an off day......We haven't seen a performance for yonks. He gets so easily relieved of the ball, its like taking candy from a baby. This has been coming since last Feb.....He doesn't even remotely look like scoring like he did last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Think that will be the last we see of Adomah for a while anyway. If Bruce knows of the brothers outburst then I doubt he'd take to kindly to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 52 minutes ago, Troglodyte said: I'm not quite sure exactly what a "forward thinking, attacking movement style" is, but I do think we play on the front foot more than some people claim. Yes I do think we end up sitting too deep when we're put on the back foot at times, though. However, all that aside, if you think I'm wrong to claim there is much hyperbole in this thread and elsewhere, you're deluded. Our style has looked largely poor so far this season, but it seems that in complaining about that some fans go so far over the top that they apparently expect us to constantly be on the front foot, without expecting most players to put a defensive shift in (and if they do, then that means we're not being ambitious enough) and for us to be putting flowing moves together all the time, regardless of confidence and quality. I also think that there's no way anyone associated with Albert should be making comments like those that have come out on a public forum. It hugely undermines our manager, whether you like him or not, which can have a detrimental effect more widely. For what it’s worth, I agree there’s hyperbole in nearly every thread here. And there’s hyperbole (or just wrong thinking and inaccurate criticisms) in many Bruce out posts But I also think there’s hyperbole on both sides of Steve Bruce discussion, He’s not a fool, he’s not ignorant. But IMO he is not doing a very good job and being overly cautious in his match strategy is one of his failings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 11 hours ago, srsmithusa said: For what it’s worth, I agree there’s hyperbole in nearly every thread here. And there’s hyperbole (or just wrong thinking and inaccurate criticisms) in many Bruce out posts But I also think there’s hyperbole on both sides of Steve Bruce discussion, He’s not a fool, he’s not ignorant. But IMO he is not doing a very good job and being overly cautious in his match strategy is one of his failings. We live in a binary world on here where you have to treat everything with adoration or pure contempt, didn't you get the memo? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I hope Adomah is selected tonight and does us proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Bomb squad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, KJT123 said: Bomb squad? I don't get it. Joke? 14 goals season passed. We're 5 games in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I don't think it's bomb squad, he's not been unprofessional as far as I know. Just needs a spell out of the team to re evaluate a few things. He's lacked intensity for a good while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Only a single attacker on the bench and he doesn't make it. Seems kind of harsh. I hope he hasn't lost his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 15 hours ago, London Villa said: Pint of what you're having please mate, you're world seems much more magical. Not even on the bench today. I hope he is having a rest for a few games like he needs and back amongst the squad again soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 To be fair Elmo is keeping him out of his spot under current form and with our depth it is no big deal that a player spends a week out of this line-up altogether. I would still rather of seen Elmo at RB, Tuanzebe at CB, Adomah start and Jedinak benched or omitted from the match-day squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I expect to see him return for the Blackburn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 He needs to get a new brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 4, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2018 It's a bit weird that everyone has been absolutely slating Adomah's performances this season. But then there's outrage when he's dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 01/09/2018 at 01:23, TRO said: I think the manager has been remarkably patient with Albert. This is like he has just had an off day......We haven't seen a performance for yonks. He gets so easily relieved of the ball, its like taking candy from a baby. This has been coming since last Feb.....He doesn't even remotely look like scoring like he did last season. Not sure I'd say patient mate. I'm just not so sure he rates him that highly. Last season Adomah was dropped for Green, even though I've really seen anything from Green that leads me to think he is going to be a top level player. Adomah only got in because of Greens injury, and credit to Adomah he made himself undroppable with a wonderful first half of the season. Now this is where i slightly question Adomahs attitude, once he made the position his own his performances dropped off significantly, almost like he thought 'thats it, I've done enough' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, av1 said: Not sure I'd say patient mate. I'm just not so sure he rates him that highly. Last season Adomah was dropped for Green, even though I've really seen anything from Green that leads me to think he is going to be a top level player. Adomah only got in because of Greens injury, and credit to Adomah he made himself undroppable with a wonderful first half of the season. Now this is where i slightly question Adomahs attitude, once he made the position his own his performances dropped off significantly, almost like he thought 'thats it, I've done enough' I think you are right. although, i am starting to think, we do have a lot of players on our books that seem to lose form very easily.....they are too inconsistent to warrant lofty expectations imo. Green and Albert have been tried time and again and not delivered. but there are only so many players a manager can keep playing before the spotlight shines on him.....i think we are close to that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It's a bit weird that everyone has been absolutely slating Adomah's performances this season. But then there's outrage when he's dropped. I think it is going to work out more of 'how' he has been dropped, not 'why' in my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, TRO said: I think you are right. although, i am starting to think, we do have a lot of players on our books that seem to lose form very easily.....they are too inconsistent to warrant lofty expectations imo. Green and Albert have been tried time and again and not delivered. but there are only so many players a manager can keep playing before the spotlight shines on him.....i think we are close to that stage. Quite possibly the case, but maybe we don't have a manager that can get the best/most out of his players? Just a thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: It's a bit weird that everyone has been absolutely slating Adomah's performances this season. But then there's outrage when he's dropped. Yep, Most of the past 30 pages or so are people saying he is crap and we should sell him, Bruce seems to agree and it's poor Albert, how dare Bruce want rid of him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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