Popular Post Czechlad Posted August 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Ah come on, it's not depression is it. More like boredom - hence the booze and the new supercar he just picked up. The guy is more likely to drink drive off the road and kill himself, than do anything worthwhile in football again. This is extremely insensitive. Your attitude is what makes it difficult for footballers to admit they have a problem. People like you see a man who is drinking heavily, not doing his job, and disappearing for weeks and just assume everything is fine. Those are cries for help. I am sure you thought Aaron Lennon's issues were just him being done as a footballer and not anything serious. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Czechlad said: This is extremely insensitive. Your attitude is what makes it difficult for footballers to admit they have a problem. People like you see a man who is drinking heavily, not doing his job, and disappearing for weeks and just assume everything is fine. Those are cries for help. I am sure you thought Aaron Lennon's issues were just him being done as a footballer and not anything serious. Let's hope he's not gay as well. He'll never be understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Again, that was last season. We are all aware that McCormack had off the field issues, but my point is McCormack took Bruce's challenge, came back fit, and looked good in his couple starts. It's amazing that Gabby can do nothing for the club in 2 years, but come back and be welcome after 1 goal, but McCormack who had one issue and has actively tried to make things right gets punished. Nah you're right mate. Bruce is just doing this because he wants to fail and ruin his reputation, one would assume he's an agent for the Blues and has been all along. I mean, it can't possibly be anything to do with the fact that he knows McCormack personally, has worked with him over the past year and doesn't feel he's a good person to have around either on or off the pitch right? That would just be stupid logic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just watch him bang them in for Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, mwj said: Perhaps. Pre-season praise in the media is also a pretty good way to clear out dead wood before deadline day. Who knows... Well it's certainly a better approach than having a very public falling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I don't think Bruce would do without him needlessly would he ? Hes seen him close up through ore season and if he's decided he doesn't need him that's good enough for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Czechlad said: Again, that was last season. We are all aware that McCormack had off the field issues, but my point is McCormack took Bruce's challenge, came back fit, and looked good in his couple starts. It's amazing that Gabby can do nothing for the club in 2 years, but come back and be welcome after 1 goal, but McCormack who had one issue and has actively tried to make things right gets punished. I get the sense he's on his way down. Players can quickly decline when they get into their 30s physically and he's obviously had issues in that area and isn't in peak fitness. That happened to Carew for instance. Looking o.k in pre season is a million miles away from being effective once the proper stuff starts. I remember a pre season when Luke Moore scored about 5 goals against a Swedish village team and once the season started he couldn't score. Rightly or wrongly Gabby is more SB's type of striker and he clearly feels he can get some goals and performances out of him more than McCormack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Czechlad said: Has McCormack not showed up to preseason looking fit? He did not complain or say a word all preseason. Like I've said numerous times already which everyone seems to ignore, McCormack had his issues last season. He came back and tried to make up for it, but it being pushed out. He came back because he was under contract, same for Gil and Veretout before they moved on. It's called being a professional. Who's to say he hasn't good to SB and said it would probably be best if he has a fresh start somewhere else for this season as I doubt he has good vibes about this club after his experience last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndFos Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/aston-villa-set-to-receive-healthy-fee-from-30-year-olds-pending-departure/ According to this we will receive a healthy loan fee, which is good news if true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2017 Tbh it's probably good for us if he goes, however it happens. He is not in the right condition to play for a team that needs to go up this season, and the squad feels a bit unbalanced with him due to this. Getting rid of him and picking up a decent prospect/ out of favour prem player to play that number 10 role and we will look so much more capable of getting through the season in the manor we want them too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 They have got James Vaughan up front for crying out loud. Doesn't get more desperate than that. Play hardball and take them for every penny, they will get desperate. Surely. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 hours ago, AshVilla said: Just watch him bang them in for Sunderland hope he does then we can sell him......but he won't be banging them in against us......too much to snuff him out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, TRO said: hope he does then we can sell him......but he won't be banging them in against us......too much to snuff him out. Er if he is on loan he can't play against us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, TRO said: hope he does then we can sell him......but he won't be banging them in against us......too much to snuff him out. He can't play against us anyway TRO, loan players can't play against their parent club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, TRO said: hope he does then we can sell him......but he won't be banging them in against us......too much to snuff him out. No snuffing will be required as he won't be playing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Er if he is on loan he can't play against us ok ....then he can score as much as he likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: He can't play against us anyway TRO, loan players can't play against their parent club. Trent got there before you Dave.....yes my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: I get the sense he's on his way down. Players can quickly decline when they get into their 30s physically and he's obviously had issues in that area and isn't in peak fitness. That happened to Carew for instance. Looking o.k in pre season is a million miles away from being effective once the proper stuff starts. I remember a pre season when Luke Moore scored about 5 goals against a Swedish village team and once the season started he couldn't score. Rightly or wrongly Gabby is more SB's type of striker and he clearly feels he can get some goals and performances out of him more than McCormack. I make Czechlad totally right - I have only seen / heard that McCormack has tried his best in pre - season - he is a proven poacher at this level and yet looks as though he's getting bombed - others can do nothing for years, score a goal which amounted to nothing more than sticking out a leg and all of a sudden is welcomed back like a long lost son - Bruce better get this call right or be prepared for the fall out that will come his way imo Edited August 4, 2017 by Dave J Missed 3 letters imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The club and Bruce have written him off. We should too. Get rid ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 i think Bruce needs to sacrifice at least two big earners and is banking on getting rid of at least two from Elphick, Amavi and McCormack. I don't think he would have sold Baker unless he had to. I'm sure that he probably doesn't want to keep De Laet because he didn't sign him, but has to because he is returning from injury and no-one else will sign him he has to try and use him. I hope De Laet is an asset also, but we don't need four right backs. No-one sane would buy Micah or Gabby either so he is stuck with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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