Zatman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 It sounds to me that Bruce will be staying but costs will need to be cut. Makes all that Champions League in 5 years talk look a bit stupid now I wont sack Round before Bruce I think he offers very little as a Sporting Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Don't think you need to spend big to get out of this league. We have to be better in the transfer market; that has been needed for many years now. I think we will have a competitive squad fighting for promotion when the season starts. I hope it is with a new manager who has a philosophy on how we should play that also will stay with us for a number of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Depressing statement. He could at least have said “We go again” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 30, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2018 Well aside from the struggling with FFP stuff, the positives are that he knows it's a summer for big changes, the worry is that we'll **** them all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Tony Xia now needs to realise now that this current structure that we have is not working and we will continue stagnate. We need a revamp and this will not be easy. We now need to scour across Europe for the right personnel. We need a head coach that believes in his tactics and philosophy. This head coach needs plenty of support, in house coaches as well as his own staff and a head of recruitment. We need to think long term and everything needs to be restructured. Youth players need to be brought into the first team and we have some wonderful young players. Jack Doyle Hayes is ready as well as a long list of youth players. If lesser size clubs can do it, i cannot see why we can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 So. I'm thinking, keep our core players: Jack, Chester, Hutton, Kodjia ,even Bjarnsson, . Add in Davis, Green, RHM, Ohare. Scout the leagues worldwide for the best young talent, as well as take the best young talent from top clubs who are on the fringe but not quite ready for their first teams. OR seriously considering making an investment with a top agent or agency ala Wolves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, Zatman said: It sounds to me that Bruce will be staying but costs will need to be cut. Makes all that Champions League in 5 years talk look a bit stupid now I wont sack Round before Bruce I think he offers very little as a Sporting Director Why does it? We spent a lot of money trying to get back quickly. If we had won promotion, then no doubt he would have spent a lot more trying to do what he said. He like most fans expected us back in the big time with the money we spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 Blimey guys. Ive never read anything like it. Now I see why attendances plummet in the absence of success, it’s always puzzled me. Since when was enjoying supporting a football club dependent upon being one of the top ones, one of the wealthiest ones, one of the guaranteed winners ? Aside from the fact that countless smallish clubs with limited budgets have got promoted, im staggered to be reading ‘game over’, ‘RIP’ etc"..........just because we didn’t go up and will have to fight hard next time. Equally all the fears about players going being the end of the world. It just happens, it’s just football. Personally can’t wait to start again, but surely if you feel it’s all as awful as some say you’d be better having a break from it ! Not that that’s my business of course. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 All this talk of “rebuilding” is ultimately pointless as that takes time and there is no time in football. If we had a foreign manager “rebuilding” who had us in the bottom half of the table 10 games in we’d all be calling for his head. It’s instant gratification or nothing. And that means $$$$$$$$$ and luck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Sadken79 said: I'm not buying that. I honestly think FFP is being used as a smokescreen by the club because we are skint. Plenty other clubs find a way around it (they just need money to do so). The clubs who can't manipulate FFP are the clubs who haven't got the financial clout. We are well and truly f**ked Nobody knows how much money Xia has or hasn’t got, but the FFP rules are not the stuff of myth and legend. And in any case, except for one or two cases the danger of receiving greater and greater finance from an owner are extreme. Better we sort ourselves out now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Spoony said: All this talk of “rebuilding” is ultimately pointless as that takes time and there is no time in football. If we had a foreign manager “rebuilding” who had us in the bottom half of the table 10 games in we’d all be calling for his head. It’s instant gratification or nothing. And that means $$$$$$$$$ and luck. It's the world we live in now. Everything has to be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, terrytini said: Blimey guys. Ive never read anything like it. Now I see why attendances plummet in the absence of success, it’s always puzzled me. Since when was enjoying supporting a football club dependent upon being one of the top ones, one of the wealthiest ones, one of the guaranteed winners ? Aside from the fact that countless smallish clubs with limited budgets have got promoted, im staggered to be reading ‘game over’, ‘RIP’ etc"..........just because we didn’t go up and will have to fight hard next time. Equally all the fears about players going being the end of the world. It just happens, it’s just football. Personally can’t wait to start again, but surely if you feel it’s all as awful as some say you’d be better having a break from it ! Not that that’s my business of course. Once England have won this summers World Cup we will all be raring to go again in August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 What is Xia bringing to the table ? - I really don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, hippo said: What is Xia bringing to the table ? - I really don't see it. You're right. We should have kept Lerner, Tom Fox, and Mcliesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You're right. We should have kept Lerner, Tom Fox, and Mcliesh. Well the one thing in Xia favour is he got experienced CEO in Wyness. Other than that its a carbon copy - Lerner chased CL football with silly cash - Xia has done the same chasing PL football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, hippo said: What is Xia bringing to the table ? - I really don't see it. Romantic nourishment and heartfelt tweets, he’s hurting you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: Well the one thing in Xia favour is he got experienced CEO in Wyness. Other than that its a carbon copy - Lerner chased CL football with silly cash - Xia has done the same chasing PL football. Bring back Steve Hollis I say. (I'm actually serious with that one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Eastie said: I think it’s more a case of Lerner giving it a good crack in the first 2 years and then losing interest - we are hoping xia doesn’t do similar . Yeh understand that, really hoping he sticks with us. When you think about it though the team that was dismantled under Lerner was a lot better than the current team. Players like Young, Milner, Downing... then later Delph & Benteke, were irreplaceable and have never really been replaced. We now only have Grealish & Chester who are unlikely to be replaceable, most of our other players have their flaws (as do most players at this level). Cardiff have proved that you can find players that can perform in the Championship without spending a lot of money. Possibly clutching at straws here but there is hope in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted May 30, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 I think the statement makes sense and tells us something about where we are. I think we've spent ten years with plans that don't stretch further than the end of the season, whether those plans have been "stay up this season", "go up this season" or (a while back now) "get into Europe this season". I think that's going to end, I think we're about to enter an era where the plan is just to get better and grow from a starting point that makes sense - where the plan is as much about 2025 as it is the week after next. I think we'll see Grealish go, and I think we'll lose some of our older players, I think for now we'll invest small amounts in younger ones and try to develop them. I don't think promotion next season is part of the plan, I think it's a near impossible dream. FFP relates to losses over a three year period and I think it's going to take us three years to get to a position where our losses don't stop us trying something. I think we'll put in a stopgap team of younger players to see us through that period; with maybe the hope that one or two will be better than that. I don't think this means an end to Dr Xia's investing in the club - but I think it means an end to not recognising the difference between investing and spending. Mile Jedinak is a decent player, Glenn Whelan is too - but they're bad investments. I think we're in for a strange time, one where the balance of the club and our eye for a player will matter as much as star names or reaching playoffs. I think the structure of the club is sound, but new - we've rebuilt scouting, we've rebuilt our youth set up, we've rebuilt most everything - now those things will need to produce. I think it's going to take a little while to improve our underlying health and it's not going to be easy - but given where we are, it's not the worst plan and it may be the only option. I don't think it needs to be as extreme as that sounds and I'm hopeful we can keep the ride reasonably smooth, but it's the ride I think we're on. 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 30, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, hippo said: What is Xia bringing to the table ? - I really don't see it. What do you think he should bring to the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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