Raymond Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, bobzy said: This seems to get thrown about a lot - "Westwood doesn't pass forward". Is there anything to back this theory up? According to, for example, WhoScored - Westwood attempted more Long Balls per game than anyone outside of Brad Guzan, Mark Bunn and Carlos Sanchez. Similarly, in terms of "Key Passes", Westwood is behind only Veretout for the amount attempted per game. I can't imagine these statistics indicate balls being hit sideways? He PROBABLY only attempts sideways passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 53 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: There is actually some considerable doubt about who is the better player. I for one haven't a clue who is better but is it really worth debating? It was relevant and we are on an Aston Villa forum so... Yes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958Villan Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I think the clue to Westwood's passing is encapsulated in the word. 'attempted'. As for the highlights video, what was it, a dozen successful passes in 4 seasons. Just about the same ratio as his successful tackles, freekicks and corners. (success at these two being clearing the first defender). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Just got to the bottom of the page and it said "Next unread topic Ashley Westwood". I must be having deja vu as I could swear I just read it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfcman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, 1958Villan said: I think the clue to Westwood's passing is encapsulated in the word. 'attempted'. Was it murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Has anybody seen this? From a newcastle fan on twitter by the looks of it, even if he has rejected us I hope it's true because offering £68kpw shows extreme ambition. Thomas Clements @t_clements 8m8 minutes ago Reliably informed Jesus Gamez snubbed an £68k p/w contract offer from #AVFC. Has taken paycut to join Newcastle United. #NUFC Gamez: "For me, Aston (Villa) are of no interest. I took paycut to sign for (Newcastle) United. I am delighted to be here." Edit: very unsure of reliability Edited July 6, 2016 by avfcwills10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'm confused. Does Westwood take floaty corners or do they not clear the first man every time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Offering Jesus Gamez £68k a week doesn't show extreme ambition, it shows extreme stupidity. No way is he worth that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 6, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, avfcwills10 said: Has anybody seen this? From a newcastle fan on twitter by the looks of it, even if he has rejected us I hope it's true because offering £68kpw shows extreme ambition. Thomas Clements @t_clements 8m8 minutes ago Reliably informed Jesus Gamez snubbed an £68k p/w contract offer from #AVFC. Has taken paycut to join Newcastle United. #NUFC Gamez: "For me, Aston (Villa) are of no interest. I took paycut to sign for (Newcastle) United. I am delighted to be here." Edit: very unsure of reliability A more positive spin for us is that it appears Daryl Janmaat's future is in the balance. So this is 6 of one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Nah that guy is just a bitter Newcastle fan. Been spinning shit all week about how Gayle and Ritchie rejected us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 I love this new found rivalry with Newcastle...if only to further negate the reason for sha to exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, bobzy said: I've been looking for these sort of stats for ages on our players. Where did you find them? Are they listed across our team? whoscored.com gives you them. It's been used before to disprove the "Westwood only passes backwards" myth. Whatever you think about his ability, that statement is demonstrably false. Edit: in fact it was me who used it on one occasion, here Edited July 6, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, avfcwills10 said: Has anybody seen this? From a newcastle fan on twitter by the looks of it, even if he has rejected us I hope it's true because offering £68kpw shows extreme ambition. Thomas Clements @t_clements 8m8 minutes ago Reliably informed Jesus Gamez snubbed an £68k p/w contract offer from #AVFC. Has taken paycut to join Newcastle United. #NUFC Gamez: "For me, Aston (Villa) are of no interest. I took paycut to sign for (Newcastle) United. I am delighted to be here." Edit: very unsure of reliability I would be very sure of the reliability of a story that has us paying £68k pw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I don't even know who Gamez is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, Nigel said: I love this new found rivalry with Newcastle...if only to further negate the reason for sha to exist! Yes, I wonder could we formalise this by handing in our notice to SHA and tell them we're moving on to bigger and better bitter rivals. It will be good for both of us etc... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted July 6, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, Nigel said: I love this new found rivalry with Newcastle...if only to further negate the reason for sha to exist! I don't. They're a **** nothing club. They've conjured this rivalry out of the most tenuous of reasons. The fixture list meant we relegated them. It could have been anyone else. So Newcastle's newest 'rivalry' was purely by chance. We don't care about them, or at least we shouldn't care about them. The fact they care about us - and the fact Norwich similarly care about us - should be something we laugh at. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 spanish bloke wants to play for rafa, gives it the big un about a pay cut and turning us down he'll have made some friends with that, the reality is he's 31, struggled for games a t atletico, £68k a week on a 4/5 year deal isnt actually that good a deal... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, BOF said: I don't. They're a **** nothing club. They've conjured this rivalry out of the most tenuous of reasons. The fixture list meant we relegated them. It could have been anyone else. So Newcastle's newest 'rivalry' was purely by chance. We don't care about them, or at least we shouldn't care about them. The fact they care about us - and the fact Norwich similarly care about us - should be something we laugh at. You have really missed the point of that post BOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudoz Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 43 minutes ago, avfcwills10 said: Has anybody seen this? From a newcastle fan on twitter by the looks of it, even if he has rejected us I hope it's true because offering £68kpw shows extreme ambition. Thomas Clements @t_clements 8m8 minutes ago Reliably informed Jesus Gamez snubbed an £68k p/w contract offer from #AVFC. Has taken paycut to join Newcastle United. #NUFC Gamez: "For me, Aston (Villa) are of no interest. I took paycut to sign for (Newcastle) United. I am delighted to be here." Edit: very unsure of reliability The guy is a wind up merchant. He just sticks the bait out and waits for bites on twitter. Those "quotes" are recycled from his "ITK" about their two signings last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 6, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 6, 2016 Just now, Nigel said: You have really missed the point of that post BOF Sorry, I'm angry at the moment. I'll revisit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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