sharkyvilla Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I thought at one stage they were going to make it mandatory to have relegation wage cuts in all players' contracts. It certainly makes sense to me to have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, KSV said: Reportedly were sending Illori back. So he wont count. (only on the 4 overall.. so we have 3 left) QPR will want a fee for him rather than risk losing him. They wont be coming up. Its a win win for QPR and Austin. He can prove he is a premier league player again as noone had come in for him. They most likely wont go down another division. They will be mid table with or without him. I think Austin holds all the cards here. I'm sure if QPR do not get him sold by the end of the window then they might look at a loan deal with some cash from us to make it worth their while (but by the end of this month would there be any point in it for us?). But would Austin want to join us and what would be in it for him to do so ( I doubt he sees much chance of making the England Euros squad or feels a need to prove himself in the top flight again and following a short term deal with us his performances might suggest he was a one season wonder after all)? I think the only way he will move before the end of the season is if the right club (for him) come in and make him the sort of offer he will get as a free agent in the next window. For me he will do a Danny Ings. Edited January 5, 2016 by John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 38 minutes ago, useless said: Birmingham Mail 'Relegation clauses were inserted into contracts and Villa opted against signing players who refused to reduce their wages if the club lost their Premier League status' I think the club started putting relegation clauses into all members of staffs' contracts two or three seasons back. As sensible as it seems it just sends the message out that we have zero ambition. Although you'd think it would give the players something to fight for. We really are a **** shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, dounavilla said: Corrected. You got me there, I was embarrassed to admit it. I went out and bought one when he signed. Legend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Palace apparently about to sign Adebeyor according to the mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/emmanuel-adebayor-shock-target-crystal-7123456 Home Sport Football Emmanuel Adebayor Emmanuel Adebayor a shock target for Crystal Palace - who are now favourites to sign him 20:29, 5 JAN 2016 UPDATED 20:30, 5 JAN 2016 BY ED MALYON The former Manchester City, Arsenal and Tottenham forward is a free agent after leaving White Hart Lane in September by mutual consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I did half think to myself that if we signed some of the players who didn't want the clause then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. But I suppose in reality it's a sensible precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I bet Fox and co. are thinking who they can sell right now rather than buy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, maqroll said: I bet Fox and co. are thinking who they can sell right now rather than buy. No sane football manager will be looking to raid us for players 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Next year's starting XI: Bunn Bacuna Clark Baker Bennett Traore Westwood Veretout Sinclair Luke Moore Gestede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: Palace apparently about to sign Adebeyor according to the mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/emmanuel-adebayor-shock-target-crystal-7123456 Home Sport Football Emmanuel Adebayor Emmanuel Adebayor a shock target for Crystal Palace - who are now favourites to sign him 20:29, 5 JAN 2016 UPDATED 20:30, 5 JAN 2016 BY ED MALYON The former Manchester City, Arsenal and Tottenham forward is a free agent after leaving White Hart Lane in September by mutual consent I guess after Remy turned them down for us they had to find a second choice Edited January 5, 2016 by Brumstopdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'd prefer to sell anyone who we can get a decent wedge for, keep the best players who will actually fight next season, and promote a lot of the youth players to the senior squad. We know that the likes of Gardner and Grealish absolutely tore up the chumpionship (and 1st division) and we have some very promising young players in the same vein. I think we could streamline a lot and still be very competitive, forging a team which would come back up first time and represent a bit of a rebirth in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 i know of one player who has a 50% relegation wage clause. i imagine there are more if not all who have signed contracts in recent years will have this clause aswell. definetly the right thing to do but as someone said earlier just shows a lack of ambition really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, leighavfc said: i know of one player who has a 50% relegation wage clause. i imagine there are more if not all who have signed contracts in recent years will have this clause aswell. definetly the right thing to do but as someone said earlier just shows a lack of ambition really. Yep, it sends an institutional message of "No Confidence". Can't be good for the mentality of the players putting pen to paper. Edited January 5, 2016 by maqroll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, maqroll said: Yep, it sends an institutional message of "No Confidence". Can't be good for the mentality of the players putting pen to paper. Yeah it does but i would also say that it must be hard to make this kind of decision as the football club must be prepared for any situation which is correct (villa being prepared is a shock in itself!!). but then on the other hand the message it kind of sends out is we expect to be fighting relegation during your contract. Kind of a double edged sword really. i wonder if any potential signings have been put off by this in the past? Edited January 5, 2016 by leighavfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'd say the relegation wage reduction clauses makes sound business sense. (don't get to say that very often around here) It's probably safe to assume that the player in question is part of the reason we got relegated in the first place, it's only right that they suffer the consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's a smart thing to do but I do wonder if we missed out on better quality players who wouldn't except the clause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, New_Jersey_Villa said: I'd say the relegation wage reduction clauses makes sound business sense. (don't get to say that very often around here) It's probably safe to assume that the player in question is part of the reason we got relegated in the first place, it's only right that they suffer the consequences. Yes i agree it makes perfect business sense. Prepare for all outcomes. Yes the player in question is in 25 man squad but not a "regular starter". Is part of the squad who will probably take us down, so again i agree they should suffer the consequences as all of us would if we performed poorly in our jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/doomed-aston-villa-lining-up-7122367 Yes its the mirror but if this really is the case then i would not be expecting much if anything this window.... Mind you i dont know what my expectations for the club are any more! Incompetence? Edited January 5, 2016 by leighavfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, leighavfc said: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/doomed-aston-villa-lining-up-7122367 If anything in that article is remotely accurate then it's a pity the scouting department didn't apply the same logic when we purchased players to supposedly compete in the premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 51 minutes ago, maqroll said: Yep, it sends an institutional message of "No Confidence". Can't be good for the mentality of the players putting pen to paper. Does it? I reckon it's a pretty common contract condition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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