dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 You think it's over the top to even suggest it? I think to say it's 'staggering' to even compare us to Stoke and Swansea like we are a league above them is just a bit. Ok. I couldn't see that in the quoted chain so I assume that was said earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dont really like the idea of a buy-back clause if im honest and would put me off this deal especially as will be close to what we pay for him Same here. It's a win-win for Barcelona and a lose-lose for us. We pay €15m, if he's good, he goes back to Barcelona for a similar amount (so essentially a loan), if he's crap, we paid €15m for him and get stuck with him. That's a bit black and white - for Barcelona to use their clause he would have to go on to be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club. If he falls anywhere short of this this we would likely be left with a top quality player (just not good enough for Barca). He could be better than Young, Downing, Milner etc and still not be good enough for Barcelona to want him back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Transfer dead stokes player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Tbf though, it is the worst deal for us. 1) Loan with option to buy 2) Loan and nothing in place for end of season 3) Buy now and sell back if Barca say so Transfer dead stokes player Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Transfer dead stokes player Off twitter no doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dont really like the idea of a buy-back clause if im honest and would put me off this deal especially as will be close to what we pay for himSame here. It's a win-win for Barcelona and a lose-lose for us. We pay €15m, if he's good, he goes back to Barcelona for a similar amount (so essentially a loan), if he's crap, we paid €15m for him and get stuck with him. That's a bit black and white - for Barcelona to use their clause he would have to go on to be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club. If he falls anywhere short of this this we would likely be left with a top quality player (just not good enough for Barca). He could be better than Young, Downing, Milner etc and still not be good enough for Barcelona to want him back. That's exactly my opinion I was also under the impression that the buy back clause would be higher that what we paid for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The buy back clauses are always higher than the initial fee. It doesn't mage any logical sense otherwise, may as well do a loan with a view to permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dont really like the idea of a buy-back clause if im honest and would put me off this deal especially as will be close to what we pay for him Same here. It's a win-win for Barcelona and a lose-lose for us. We pay €15m, if he's good, he goes back to Barcelona for a similar amount (so essentially a loan), if he's crap, we paid €15m for him and get stuck with him. That's a bit black and white - for Barcelona to use their clause he would have to go on to be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club. If he falls anywhere short of this this we would likely be left with a top quality player (just not good enough for Barca). He could be better than Young, Downing, Milner etc and still not be good enough for Barcelona to want him back. not really. What happens if he has a stormer for Villa and teams like Spurs and Liverpool bidding 30 million but Barca buy him back for 12 million and then sell him to them for 30 milion Real Madrid did it with Negredo sign him from Almeria and making big profit selling him to Sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dont really like the idea of a buy-back clause if im honest and would put me off this deal especially as will be close to what we pay for himSame here. It's a win-win for Barcelona and a lose-lose for us. We pay €15m, if he's good, he goes back to Barcelona for a similar amount (so essentially a loan), if he's crap, we paid €15m for him and get stuck with him. That's a bit black and white - for Barcelona to use their clause he would have to go on to be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club. If he falls anywhere short of this this we would likely be left with a top quality player (just not good enough for Barca). He could be better than Young, Downing, Milner etc and still not be good enough for Barcelona to want him back. not really. What happens if he has a stormer for Villa and teams like Spurs and Liverpool bidding 30 million but Barca buy him back for 12 million and then sell him to them for 30 milion Real Madrid did it with Negredo sign him from Almeria and making big profit selling him to Sevilla We'd still only be financially worse off though, he'd still need to perform to a high standard which is the main thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The buy back clauses are always higher than the initial fee. It doesn't mage any logical sense otherwise, may as well do a loan with a view to permanent. From Villas point of view yes, but if Barca don't want to then we get what we're given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dont really like the idea of a buy-back clause if im honest and would put me off this deal especially as will be close to what we pay for him Same here. It's a win-win for Barcelona and a lose-lose for us. We pay €15m, if he's good, he goes back to Barcelona for a similar amount (so essentially a loan), if he's crap, we paid €15m for him and get stuck with him. That's a bit black and white - for Barcelona to use their clause he would have to go on to be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club. If he falls anywhere short of this this we would likely be left with a top quality player (just not good enough for Barca). He could be better than Young, Downing, Milner etc and still not be good enough for Barcelona to want him back. not really. What happens if he has a stormer for Villa and teams like Spurs and Liverpool bidding 30 million but Barca buy him back for 12 million and then sell him to them for 30 milion Real Madrid did it with Negredo sign him from Almeria and making big profit selling him to Sevilla We'd still only be financially worse off though, he'd still need to perform to a high standard which is the main thing true but id rather not have Barcelona getting anything out of it except an initial fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Willy on the table time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudoz Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Alan Nixon reckons Stoke made the early offer and we're now trying to steal in.@bobchuwah @OllieAvfc123 @orioldomenech Stoke made early move. Villa trying to nick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Get real for a second. What has our history or the ex barca players got to do with anything? this kid will have grown up dreaming of playing alongside Stephen Ireland. close thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Get real for a second. What has our history or the ex barca players got to do with anything? this kid will have grown up dreaming of playing alongside Stephen Ireland. close thread. What an utterly foolish comment ! It's clearly Peter Crouch he has had wet dreams about !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Get real for a second. What has our history or the ex barca players got to do with anything? this kid will have grown up dreaming of playing alongside Stephen Ireland. close thread. What an utterly foolish comment ! It's clearly Peter Crouch's misses he has had wet dreams about !!! Fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I don't understand why we're buying anyone. Either they'll be shit, or they'll be good and some bigger club will come in and take them, or they'll be ok and stay with us for a bit, possibly until they retire and then we'll all die and the sun will burn out and that'll be that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Get real for a second. What has our history or the ex barca players got to do with anything? this kid will have grown up dreaming of playing alongside Stephen Ireland. close thread. What an utterly foolish comment ! It's clearly Peter Crouch's misses he has had wet dreams about !!! Fixed? Not sure why Peter Crouch failing to convert goalscoring opportunities would give him wet dreams? Edited August 4, 2015 by StanBalaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garreth Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 so have stoke definately got this player?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 A Stoke supporting mate of mine says he is in Stoke tonight and the expect him to have a medical tomorrow. Apparentley they have tracked him for ages Liverpool never interested, thats what he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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