Wainy316 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: We've had some shit performances by defenders in recent years, but nothing like that. I've seen worse this season. Okore v Luton, Elphick v everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2016 I actually thought he was fine, other than one monumentally stupid moment that nearly cost us the game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 He was often left dealing with Leeds right-hand side attacks on his own, with no central midfielder coming over to help him and Ayew wandering around up front doing **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 He's really not that good, £25m would be terrific business for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 51 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: He was often left dealing with Leeds right-hand side attacks on his own, with no central midfielder coming over to help him and Ayew wandering around up front doing **** all. That's not true! A couple of times at least, Ayew tracked back and actually got him out of trouble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Alakagom said: It's tough league for him imho, he needs to bulk up. Too skinny. Amavi in BPL, where pace and technical skill is more important would be better. Not that his technical skills lately are good though lol Is that the Bangladeshi Premier League or Belarusian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Some overreactions on here. He was faced with a few tricky situations tonight and made wrong decisions, but was largely solid on the whole. It happens, one poor performance doesn't mean he's shite and his head has gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Doukara bullied him a couple of times and he made a few errors and Leeds targeted that side in 2nd half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Jareth said: Yet it was in a match versus a good Leeds side and we got a point. Just despicable. I didn't realise individual performances were tied to a result. We've only lost a few this season, all of our players must have been great all season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I actually thought he was fine, other than one monumentally stupid moment that nearly cost us the game. He let Sako in behind so many times, I can't imagine he'll enjoy an easier game many times than he did against Amavi tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 That ball he put in the box in the first half was exquisite. Can't remember who headed it just past the post but it would have been some goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philgetaway Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Young promising player, shows inconcistent form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Last night was the worst game I have seen him play, but the over reaction here is ridiculous. For most of the season, he has consistently been one of our better players, has a shocker of a game, and those with goldfish attention spans want to get rid of him? 25 million was offered for him. Thats more than most of us including myself would make in a lifetime, so that is not like tossing chips to seagulls, somebody is willing to fork out that much money for him, because they think he is worth it. We need to understand that what we have are not robots. Players eat, drink, sleep, have relationships, have personal problems, etc. Players, being human, will have bad games for an infinite amount of reasons, but to write them off as shit even though their overall consistency doesnt reflect that? We go down the path of remaining a selling club, we sell Amavi, and then look to replace him. Would we really coerce better to come to a Chumpionship club? So after tossing money around, and eventually get what we percieve is quality due to the price tag, not taking into account the hyper bloated price because we have 25 million quid and an owner who is well known to be loaded, what guarantee is there that the replacement will be any good? Because we paid shitloads, the player has good stats and a good reputation? Bullshit. Micah Richards had a good reputation too, and that turned out brilliantly. Amavi has the tools, talent, ability and youth to be valuable for us, but like every player that needs to breathe, they cant pull it off 100% of the time. If you dont believe that, then somebody with 25 million does. Edited December 30, 2016 by AJ There you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, AJ said: Last night was the worst game I have seen him play, but the over reaction here is ridiculous. For most of the season, he has consistently been one of our better players, has a shocker of a game, and those with goldfish attention spans want to get rid of him? 25 million was offered for him. Thats more than most of us including myself would make in a lifetime, so that is not like tossing chips to seagulls, somebody is willing to fork out that much money for him, because they think he is worth it. We need to understand that what we have are not robots. Players eat, drink, sleep, have relationships, have personal problems, etc. Players, being human, will have bad games for an infinite amount of reasons, but to write them off as shit even though their overall consistency doesnt reflect that? We go down the path of remaining a selling club, we sell Amavi, and then look to replace him. Would we really coerce better to come to a Chumpionship club? So after tossing money around, and eventually get what we percieve is quality due to the price tag, not taking into account the hyper bloated price because we have 25 million quid and an owner who is well known to be loaded, what guarantee is there that the replacement will be any good? Because we paid shitloads, the player has good stats and a good reputation? Bullshit. Micah Richards had a good reputation too, and that turned out brilliantly. Amavi has the tools, talent, ability and youth to be valuable for us, but like every player that needs to breathe, they cant pull it off 100% of the time. If you dont believe that, then somebody with 25 million does. I agree. Paragraphs are overrated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Avfc96 said: He was often left dealing with Leeds right-hand side attacks on his own, with no central midfielder coming over to help him and Ayew wandering around up front doing **** all. Ayew wasn't too bad, but yes the midfield left things wide open and he was alone a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Two moments he made terrible decisions that both nearly cost us. The reaction if Hutton had done the same would be much worse. His passing wasn't great yesterday, giving the ball away at times when under little pressure. You can live with the odd bad performance but my worry is that's now two in a row that have been poor and it's right at the time where there's clear speculation about his future here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 One of better players IMO. Makes a few mistakes defensively - he is more comfortable going forward, although his effectiveness at doing that has waned recently. He wasn't great last night and that calamity moment would have cost us more often than not. I would absolutely sell him for £25m though. I don't Amavi would want to go and play in china so rejecting the £25m was a good bit of PR for us. Interesting that his linked with liverpool and he would seem exactly the type of defender they don't need. I would would think £12-15m + add ons a more realistic price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 First half - fine, actually played pretty well I'd say Second half - abysmal, kept giving the ball away (did so 3-4 times in the space of a minute IIRC) and very nearly gave away a goal when he hesitated before recovering to deflect the ball on to the bar Hope that second half was a one-off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 30, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2016 The rumoured 25m bid affected him last night which can happen to an even more experienced player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 47 minutes ago, striker said: The rumoured 25m bid affected him last night which can happen to an even more experienced player. Just out of interest, from an outsider's POV, do you think Amavi is too good to sell if the rumoured £25m offer is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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