Dr_Pangloss Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 We have 3 games left? We should sack him and install Sid as caretaker manager. He just can't motivate the players he has to want to survive. Awful. This club needs a massive clear out, manager, some backroom staff, chairman, board and players, this club is an utter, utters shameless right to its rotten core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted April 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I think Lamberts biggest failing has been his inability to impose a style of play. I couldn't tell you what Lamberts football philosophy it is. I think we often look like we are trying to play a passing game but then due to a lack of movement the ball more often than not ends up with one of the centre backs or Guzan and we end up lumping it forward. Given the amount of players he has signed Lambert has had pretty much a blank canvas. He has had the opportunity to sign players to suit the system/style he wants to go with. Now it can certainly be argued that he was always going to struggle to sign quality given the amount he has had to spend but through good coaching you should be able to improve them. The penny should have dropped some time ago for Lambert that too many of the players he inherited and has signed are unable to consistently produce when they have the ball and he and the coaching staff have been unable to improve that. He should therefore have been sending them out from the get go to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. Put a big man up front and get players around him and build from there. It ain't pretty but it can be effective for teams with limited ability. What we have now is players who it seems want to or are told to play a passing/quick movement game who don't have the quality at this level to do it. They then panic and hoof it forward but with no direction as we have not set out to play like this. The goal yesterday was a perfect example. Guzan didn't want to lump it forward, gave it to Vlaar who then panicked. Against Hull whoever is in charge needs to go agricultural and keep things simple. Play Holt up top, get it into him as quickly as possible and get Gabby, Albrighton, Robinson/Weimann playing around him and build from the final third of the pitch. No pissing about with it at the back/in midfield and inevitably putting ourselves under pressure and lumping it forward but without any direction. This combined with plenty of heart and passion will hopefully be good enough to secure 3 points and see us safe. Then hopefully major changes can come in the summer. Edited April 27, 2014 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Which silly tactics? Narrow diamond with no width, 3 at the back and long ball football are a few. Do you really think he's doing nothing wrong? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Benteke is the only good thing to come out from hiring Lambert. Edited April 27, 2014 by KSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 And he resigned Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Which silly tactics? Narrow diamond with no width, 3 at the back and long ball football are a few. Do you really think he's doing nothing wrong? No, I'm just not qualified to say what's good or bad tactics. Doesn't a narrow diamond allow you to win the midfield, the most important area? Allowing players like Westwood and Delph to control the midfield against better players? 3/5 at the back has worked before and it's what I'd play on Saturday. We look decidedly more solid defensively like that. Finally, isn't everyone saying we should play long ball football as it's the most effective with limited players? Like Pulis is doing with Palace? When fans can't agree what's good or bad tactics, who's qualified to say if they're right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 No one on here is qualified to say what are good and bad but when you look at the evidence (performances, results, league table) you can see it hasn't worked and he's responsible for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 He needs to be sacked right away. We are in free fall and none of the players seem to want to play for him and there is a total lack of fight and motivation. It's suicide to keep him for a game longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 We need to be qualified now to say whether tactics are good or bad? Surely its painfully obvious by our dire performances but what do I know he could be a tactical mastermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I don't think tactics matter when players aren't good enough. Edited April 27, 2014 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 We need to be qualified now to say whether tactics are good or bad? Surely its painfully obvious by our dire performances but what do I know he could be a tactical mastermind. You do know what qualified means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Lambert should stay. Silly to fire a manager so late into a season. Every manager has a rough spell. Rodgers when he was at Reading. Now he is top of the league with Liverpool. Ferguson in his early years at Manchester United having had success with all his clubs up until then. If Villa gets relegated, who else is better than Lambert to get the team back up anyway? Yes, it is ugly football, but for the love of Villa, I believe Lambert has learned a lesson or two this season about both himself and player psychology. I have a bad feeling about getting rid of him as a manager, because like those examples above, it shows you that you that good managers learn from bad experiences, and I don't want another team getting the benefits of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I don't think tactics matter when players aren't good enough. It can only get you so far but they cant be underestimated. Plenty of managers have taken over sides and with minimum turnover of players have caused a drastic positive or negative effect on the results, Just look at United and Palace for examples from this year. What else can this be contributed to if not the tactics and play-style the manager employs. The players have shown a few times that they are capable of playing good stuff, I think it needs to go down as Lambert's failing that he could not achieve any kind of consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I can't seem to quote. Re: Pulis And he spent millions to get mid table with that football, the net outlay (according to the article I posted this morning) was more than Arsenal. Edited April 27, 2014 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 We need to be qualified now to say whether tactics are good or bad? Surely its painfully obvious by our dire performances but what do I know he could be a tactical mastermind. You do know what qualified means? Sorry, I'm not qualified to answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 No one on here is qualified to say what are good and bad but when you look at the evidence (performances, results, league table) you can see it hasn't worked and he's responsible for that. Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Lambert should stay. Silly to fire a manager so late into a season. Every manager has a rough spell. Rodgers when he was at Reading. Now he is top of the league with Liverpool. Ferguson in his early years at Manchester United having had success with all his clubs up until then. If Villa gets relegated, who else is better than Lambert to get the team back up anyway? Yes, it is ugly football, but for the love of Villa, I believe Lambert has learned a lesson or two this season about both himself and player psychology. I have a bad feeling about getting rid of him as a manager, because like those examples above, it shows you that you that good managers learn from bad experiences, and I don't want another team getting the benefits of this. That has to be extreme trolling, surely? And for the last time, Ferguson's 'early years' weren't as bad as is made out when trotted out in debates like this. He came second in his second year. And Lambert clearly never, ever learns anything, and I'd be more than willing to gamble on him going off and being the next Ferguson somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Backing Lambert is like claiming Bannan is a world class player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Bannan is world class imo.NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 With lambert still at the club today it shows how little the board care now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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