romavillan Posted August 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2014 If we don't get an injury list like last year, I reckon 12th - 15th. If we lose 3 or 4 key players to injury we are in deep poop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 15th/16th - lower if we lose Vlaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Reckon we stumble in on 36-40 points. Now if that leaves us in 15th or 20th is up to how the other teams perform. A lot can and will happen before the window closes, so it's difficult to say atm. We are turning into a club no one cares about, just making up the numbers. But hey, at least we start the season in second place in the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 To be honest we could feasibly finish above the likes of Burnley, Leicester, West Brom, QPR, Sunderland, Crystal Palace and West Ham (any three of those would do just fine ) Swansea will be down there aswell if they sell Bony. To me in the premier league there's a top 7 who are playing their own league. Then after that Stoke and Newcastle look to have the strongest current squads to me so won't be in any relegation danger. I doubt think I'm exaggerating to say from 9th downards everyone else will just be glad to stay up and a lot will struggle to get much past 40 points. That was the case last season anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I think we'll see a comfortable mid table finish this season, perhaps even top 10. I think it's easy to write us off, considering what's been going on lately, and the fact that we've had three piss poor seasons in a row. Still, I don't buy into this pessimistic view that seem to be the reigning opinion on here. I don't blame anyone for thinking we'll get relegated, but looking at the squads of newly promoted teams, and of those that finished close to us last season, we should be able compete quite well. I would rank Burnley, Leicester, QPR and Albion far worse than us, at least on paper. The likes of West Ham, Hull, Palace and Stoke seem on par with us, imho. Also I think our first eleven when fit easily surpasses all the aforementioned teams. The far bigger concern for me is, will we have the hunger and needed attitude to compete, and what if our counterattacking "tactics" fail, will we have a plan B!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingysilvers Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 17th/18th, we'll be on the end of plenty of embarrassing cricket scores along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I said 19 I was being positive Bottom and relegated by start of april 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I don't agree, but it did atleast make me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 12th-15th. Consolidation until Lerner finally goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted August 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2014 21st - thats how bad i think we are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 As of right now - relegation is very, very likely. Nothing last forever, certainly not the flirtation we have had with relegation for the last few years. Benteke is injured and might not return for a good while - who knows when he will reach the levels he can be at? Our signings have been lackluster and will not make us any better in my opinion. I don't want to see Senderos anywhere near our team and Cole is always injured + old. Richardson is versatile, but he has never been a good player. I am quite "happy" with him in a sense that he somewhere we can play all over the field, but let's be honest, there is a reason why nobody else wanted to sign him up. Signing Joe Cole is decision based on the old imagine of this player, that he has something to offer. However, he has played 749, 792, 0 and 802 minutes over the last few seasons. That equals to what? 7-8 full games each season? He is soon 33 years old and is someone we should have stayed away from. Relying on aging players is one thing - but when he is injured all the time it is pointless. Why not get in Damien Duff and Kieran Dyer while we're at it? Right now I would take 16th in an instant. The clubs going to be down there are of course QPR, Burnley and Leicester - but often one of the promoted sides surprise everyone and end up doing well. Crystal Palace will most likely struggle to copy what they did after Christmas and then you have Hull - maybe Sunderland as well. A few clubs will be dragged in there and on paper we are among the 3-4 weakest squads to be honest. It all comes down to Vlaar and Benteke. If they stay and we get 30+ games out of both of them, we should be fine. However, an injury to Vlaar and setbacks for Benteke and we are doomed. I think Chelsea will be strong this year, I think United will get 4th in front of Liverpool and I dread us going down. To be honest, we have it coming. The atmosphere around Villa Park will be dreadful in October when we have finished this "tour" of playing all the best teams on the trot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeParker91 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 15th/16th - lower if we lose Vlaar. I'd also agree with this, keeping Vlaar is crucial for us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 19th. Burnley - on paper at least - are the weakest team in the division, and haven't done much to improve. I think we may be the worst of the rest. We smell of decay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted August 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2014 First 3 games are key for me get 5-9 points we will be fine 0-4 we will be chasing for the rest of the season because we won't get anything from the next 5 games 17th for me it will come down to goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Saw an article on Ladbrooks re our chances this season and theyve got us at 3/1 to go down. Looking on Odds Checker and we've got some breathing room there but were still apparently more likely than Hull, if you want to feel a bit more depressed. If we get Benteke back in good time and he hits the ground running I think we should have more comfortable season than many are expecting. We're such a chaotic team though it's very difficulty to predict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Are we really that much stronger than last season with our signings? Bentake makes the difference. The longer he isn't the fitter, the higher the changes of going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I can only see another season of boring football dished up by Lambert who will be in no danger of getting the sack. With plenty of "we go again" after some inevitable hammering's, out of the cups in the early rounds, more serious injuries along with the competition between Hutton and Delph to see which one of them gets suspended 1st. 17th if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 19, 2014 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2014 1st: 0.1%2nd: 0.4%3rd: 1.0%4th: 1.7%5th: 2.4%6th: 3.4%7th: 4.4%8th: 5.4%9th: 6.3%^^^ upper quartile10th: 7.2%11th: 8.0% == max. likelihood (for the record, the max likelihood finish for Man Utd is currently projected to be 12th...)12th: 7.7% == median13th: 9.0%14th: 8.3%15th: 7.9%vvv lower quartile16th: 7.3%17th: 6.4%18th: 5.6%19th: 4.5%20th: 3.0%(NB: for now the Monte Carlo is using Norwich's form late last season as a stand-in for Leicester, Fulham's for Burnley, and Cardiff's for Leicester)7th: 0.1%8th: 0.1%9th: 0.3%10th: 0.8%11th: 1.3%12th: 2.7%13th: 4.7%14th: 7.0%15th: 9.5%^^^ upper quartile16th: 11.8%17th: 13.9% == median18th: 15.1%vvv lower quartile19th: 16.8%20th: 15.9%(This is strictly based on the second half* of this past season, without taking any transfers etc. into account)*: the Villa results considered start with Cardiff away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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