mickjacobjr Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 13th to 18th we shouldn't get too excited over the start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 1st. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 7th should be the aim, I think Everton are getable this season. But I woukd take top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'll cautiously stick to 11th, but I'm optimistic we can finish in the top half now, which would represent major progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Seriously and without wishing to go over the top or anything but Evernot, are they seriously man for man better than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Seriously and without wishing to go over the top or anything but Evernot, are they seriously man for man better than us? Of course they are. If anyone thinks man for man Everton and Villa are close then they should ask themselves what the heck is Lambert doing trailing 20-30 points behind them. Edited September 18, 2014 by BG_Villa_Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B94villa Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Everton are a better team than us currently, no question about that. If we finish above them it will be a reflection on their season, not ours. I'd also add Southampton to that list, but apart from them and the top 6, there's no other teams guaranteed a place above us if we can build on the improvements seen so far. 10th place. Utv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juteface Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Seriously and without wishing to go over the top or anything but Evernot, are they seriously man for man better than us? Of course they are. If anyone thinks man for man Everton and Villa are close then they should ask themselves what the heck is Lambert doing trailing 20-30 points behind them. Last time I checked, Villa were 5 points ahead of Everton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Seriously and without wishing to go over the top or anything but Evernot, are they seriously man for man better than us? Of course they are. If anyone thinks man for man Everton and Villa are close then they should ask themselves what the heck is Lambert doing trailing 20-30 points behind them. Last time I checked, Villa were 5 points ahead of Everton. Everton have a few big players hitting a downward trajectory. Their defence looks fragile this season, and their manager isn't known for building defences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BkkVilla Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Comfortable mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosofsaunders Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 8th for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONCABA Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Lets just go and win the bloody thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Seriously and without wishing to go over the top or anything but Evernot, are they seriously man for man better than us? I'm bored, so let's have a look: Goalkeepers Guzan, Given & Steer vs Howard, Robles, Stanek Overall: Similar Defenders Baker, Vlaar, Okore, Clark, Senderos, Hutton, Cissokho, Lowton, Stevens vs Hibbert, Baines, Oviedo, Distin, Coleman, Stones, Jagielka, Alcaraz Overall: I'd put Jags and Vlaar as similar. Distin has been a wonderful performer down the years but I think he's over the hill now, and I'd actually prefer Senderos. Stones and Okore are both highly thought of youngsters who need to fully establish themselves. We've actually got more cover at centre half too, so I think we nick it there. However Everton certainly have better full backs, both at first choice and cover, however well ours have started. Midfielders Bacuna, Cleverley, Cole, Westwood, Delph, Herd, Sanchez, N'Zogbia, Grealish, Richardson vs Gibson, McGeady, McCarthy, Besic, Barry, Atsu, Barkley, Osman, Pienaar Overall: We've improved in this area massively, but Everton still have more players who can make a difference going forward, so for that they take it. Forwards Weimann, Agbonlahor, Bent, Benteke, Kozak, Robinson vs Eto'o, Kone, Lukaku, Mirallas, Naismith Overall: I'd argue that we have the better Belgian, but Mirallas and Naismith trumps Gabby and Weimann. Kozak/Bent vs Eto'o/Kone... meh. Not sure. Everton maybe nick it, but it's tight. SO: I reckon Everton still have a stronger squad. It's tight, but they're better in midfield for sure. However I think they're light at the back, and key injuries could really hurt them. Interestingly, our squad options are pretty strong now. Thing is it's not only about players, but manager/style of play/confidence/luck etc... I fully expect them to finish above us, but maybe we're not as far behind as we thought? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSepulchrave Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Good start or not, a 12th-10th would do me fine. Unless we start getting more shots on target every match, we could start to find things much more difficult. Great to have that really solid base of a defense to build upon and Kozak and Benteke both to return though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 On the Everton debate I think people are seriously getting ahead of themselves. 15 - Lukaku, 8 - Mirallas, 6 - Coleman, Barkley, 5 - Naismith, Baines. 45 Premier League goals between 6 players last season. Our whole team managed 39 Premier League goals last season. 4 of those 39 were scored by players no longer at the club (El Ahmadi, Luna, Holt) As solid as Hutton/Cisokho have been they are well behind Coleman & Baines. Delph needs to add more goals to his game, he is more than capable of rocketing a goal in from 30 yards. Can Delph get 6 this season? He should be trying to. Finally with 2 each already you would think Gabby & Andi will have to better last years tally of 9 goals combined. Personally I do not rate Naismith at all as a footballer and am shocked every time I see him in the Everton team. We'd be doing well if we could get 20 goals from Gabby, Andi, Libor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Patrick cheers I was hoping someone would do that For me its tight and where as you think they have a better midfield I think we have to be honest. Forward line is interesting as I think Benteke is better than anything Evernot have by a distance but their back up is better than our back up and for that they nick the forward area. Just saying they are not that far ahead of us in terms of the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Patrick cheers I was hoping someone would do that For me its tight and where as you think they have a better midfield I think we have to be honest. Forward line is interesting as I think Benteke is better than anything Evernot have by a distance but their back up is better than our back up and for that they nick the forward area. Just saying they are not that far ahead of us in terms of the squad Our 2 centre halfs are better, I think our midfield is a bit of an unknown there's 3 new players in there. Their fullbacks are different animals they're about getting forward. It's tough to say, but I think they're gettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Delighted with our start, but after the last couple of years I'll be happy with anything better than a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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