Davkaus Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 There's an owner of a model X and a model 3 near me, both in white, ands the plain white, cheap plastic looking front reminds me of a bathtub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 My next door neighbour has a model x, it's not a nice car Its also hard to say over the status thing because if you know where you're looking there's loads of grants and money off deals on them (maybe because it's electric maybe because of the super factory in Berlin) so I'd sit here saying he's mad to take a model x over say the cheaper etron but then when alls said and done you can get a Tesla for circa €500 a month making it a "cheap" car Which then goes back to the status thing... Its not as special a car as its made out to be I'd take a polestar over one personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: My next door neighbour has a model x, it's not a nice car Its also hard to say over the status thing because if you know where you're looking there's loads of grants and money off deals on them (maybe because it's electric maybe because of the super factory in Berlin) so I'd sit here saying he's mad to take a model x over say the cheaper etron but then when alls said and done you can get a Tesla for circa €500 a month making it a "cheap" car Which then goes back to the status thing... Its not as special a car as its made out to be I'd take a polestar over one personally Polestar the worst for initial quality by some margin, Tesla up a bit from where it was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted August 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Polestar the worst for initial quality by some margin, Tesla up a bit from where it was last year. 7/11 top quality cars are American? In a US study, by a US company. It's probably correct but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tegis said: 7/11 top quality cars are American? In a US study, by a US company. It's probably correct but It’s the biggest study of its kind, but yes it’s mainly American car owners. The other thing that always skews these are that the lower tech companies bringing older generation powertrains, driver assistance, infotainment etc tend to be nearer the top. High tech brands bringing new technology forward suffer more as the glitches get reported a faults. There needs to be some kind of weighting to allow for complexity and tech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Chindie said: Status and image. 30 years ago they'd have been Lambos, tricked out SUVs, high end saloons, now it's the expensive, elite, advanced, socially conscious posing pouch on wheels. But lambos etc are premium expensive cars. Teslas aren't, really. Yeah they're not cheap but they're not outrageous. They start at about 35k don't they? Nobody is making tiktoks about their VW Tiguan though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, Genie said: Polestar the worst for initial quality by some margin, Tesla up a bit from where it was last year. Yeah but Americans have a terrible taste in cars so best to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Tegis said: Its a Skoda with a fantastc powertrain. I genuinely think my Skoda looks better than a Tesla. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 17, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, El Zen said: I genuinely think my Skoda looks better than a Tesla. I think a Ford Mondeo looks better than a Tesla. I really hate the shape of them. The backend looks like a saloon that was reversed into a steel wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2022 I'm on the Tesla Ugly Train. Choo. Choo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 17, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 17, 2022 Half my day has been taken up by doing call transcripts for Subject Access Requests, listening to the same shite over and over and over to make sure it's correct. One part of my job I detest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 For me, cars are a way of getting from a to b, not bothered what it looks like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, chappy said: For me, cars are a way of getting from a to b, not bothered what it looks like. Music to my ears. I've been trying to sell my car for years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Davkaus said: There's an owner of a model X and a model 3 near me, both in white, ands the plain white, cheap plastic looking front reminds me of a bathtub. I can appreciate the tech in them but they look shit. Definition of a white goods vehicle. Panel gaps so wide you could stick your fist in (kw.jpg) Give me a Hyundai/Kia any day of the week, if I was in the market for an EV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, chappy said: For me, cars are a way of getting from a to b, not bothered what it looks like. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Music to my ears. I've been trying to sell my car for years It's good but it's not this good: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I have driven most of the premium electric cars on a training course I went on. It was mainly to test the new Mercedes EQ range. Even though I should be bias, the Audi E-tron GT was the best EV for me. I drove a Tesla plaid, which is the ultra fast one, although I didn't get to test the performance really, as it takes about 10 minutes to set up in ludicrous mode, then you have plaid mode which apparently is insanely quick. Your right in it has very poor build quality, which the Mercedes training staff were more than happy to point out. The issue I have been told with Telsa is, when most manufactures are launching there new vehicle on the road, they are already researching and building the next model update. Where as Tesla, pretty much, have no idea at the moment where they are going next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted August 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2022 Better then. It is the worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Anthony said: Better then. It is the worse. I'm bias but I agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 17 hours ago, foreveryoung said: The issue I have been told with Telsa is, when most manufactures are launching there new vehicle on the road, they are already researching and building the next model update. Where as Tesla, pretty much, have no idea at the moment where they are going next. Feel like shorting Tesla stock when hear things like this. One for the investments thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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