Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, Xela said: Wood, 30 Burn, 30 Trippier, 31, Pope, 30 (ok, doesn't matter as much for a GK) You have said in the past we have been 'short term' with our older signings but Newcastle are doing the same? first 3 all got 2 year contracts, its to steady Newcastle and then they will power forward with others like Guimaraes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Zatman said: first 3 all got 2 year contracts, its to steady Newcastle and then they will power forward with others like Guimaraes So they will go on free transfers? What did they cost, around £50m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Xela said: So they will go on free transfers? What did they cost, around £50m? Maybe but money is no object for them, we cant really criticise consider the amount of players we let go for nothing over the years Newcastle squad were probably a season or 2 behind us before Howe came in with the mess Bruce/Ashley left them in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 They had to buy players a step down from what they would have wanted in January because they still looked likely to be relegated at that point. Targett has been bought because he was basically ever-present in a side that had Champions League-qualifying form in the second half of the season, and he's younger anyway. Pope could play for a Europe-qualifying side and age doesn't really matter for goalies. If they buy lots more players like Wood, Burn and Targett then perhaps the fans should get worried, because I agree they probably aren't going to carry them to Europe. But each of the players they've bought has made sense, and Guimaraes in particular is excellent. Their business has been reasonable; the only nice thing is they don't yet seem to be considered a hugely desirable destination, as we've seen with both Botman and Ekitike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Maybe but money is no object for them, we cant really criticise consider the amount of players we let go for nothing over the years Newcastle squad were probably a season or 2 behind us before Howe came in with the mess Bruce/Ashley left them in They still have to operate within the confusing rules of FPP surely? Last 3 seasons Newcastle have been 13, 12 and 11 We have been 17, 11 and 14 I didn't see them as being a season or two behind us? I think we're at a similar place tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Xela said: They still have to operate within the confusing rules of FPP surely? Last 3 seasons Newcastle have been 13, 12 and 11 We have been 17, 11 and 14 I didn't see them as being a season or two behind us? I think we're at a similar place tbh. Woodman Murphy Fernandez Schar Lascelles Ritchie Hayden Almiron Willock St Maximin Wilson Subs: Fraser, Joelinton and Longstaff That was the team that started at Villa Park start of last season.... How many gets in the Villa team? We were definitely ahead of them by a clear distance and they werent missing anybody big from the squad except Dubravka and maybe Shelvey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 14 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Nick Pope for 10 mill. Another good sensible deal. In fact its a brilliant deal. I had heard "undisclosed fee", £10m would be too cheap to be true for in my opinion, the best English qualified GK. So much for clubs demanding a premium to sell to the Toon Sheiks, or so much for FFP if you can get away with saying you have bought a keeper for a fraction of his actual value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, John said: I had heard "undisclosed fee", £10m would be too cheap to be true for in my opinion, the best English qualified GK. So much for clubs demanding a premium to sell to the Toon Sheiks, or so much for FFP if you can get away with saying you have bought a keeper for a fraction of his actual value. I was thinking maybe he had a relegation release clause . Because 10 mill for him is insane value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 hours ago, villa4europe said: Biggest change they can make is clubs in Europe aren't in the league cup Will mean a fresh team in the EL every season They will bin the Cup off before they let that happen i called for that a while back. it would be brilliant and i highly doubt any of the clubs playing in europe would complain. the sponsors might have something to say about it though....it would massively devalue the competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, tomav84 said: The sponsors might have something to say about it though....it would massively devalue the competition The TV companies would want their money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i called for that a while back. it would be brilliant and i highly doubt any of the clubs playing in europe would complain. the sponsors might have something to say about it though....it would massively devalue the competition That's the shit thing for me, there is so little value left in the competition anyway but if they did try and save it the big 6 and therefore the money men would rather just pull the plug I'd hope that if there wasn't the 6 and it was us, Everton, Newcastle, Leeds etc we'd all properly go for it and it would be a great competition, even the top championship teams would go all out for it Man City winning it 4 times in a row or whatever is shit, there's been 2 non top 6 winners in the last 10 years, 4 in the last 20, in the last 20 years 11 of the 40 teams to play a final ahve come from outside the top 6, 2 finals were between two teams outside the top 6 it is roughly 1 every 10 years Its garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Zatman said: Woodman Murphy Fernandez Schar Lascelles Ritchie Hayden Almiron Willock St Maximin Wilson Subs: Fraser, Joelinton and Longstaff That was the team that started at Villa Park start of last season.... How many gets in the Villa team? We were definitely ahead of them by a clear distance and they werent missing anybody big from the squad except Dubravka and maybe Shelvey How many of Trippier, Targett, Wood and Pope get into our first team? Is there anyone they've brought other than that Guimeres fella that we'd want starting for us? I can't think of any. They've definitely improved themselves, I'd take our business over theirs though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Davkaus said: How many of Trippier, Targett, Wood and Pope get into our first team? Is there anyone they've brought other than that Guimeres fella that we'd want starting for us? I can't think of any. They've definitely improved themselves, I'd take our business over theirs though. Only one I'd consider is Trippier but even there I think I'd prefer Cash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Only one I'd consider is Trippier but even there I think I'd prefer Cash. We could put him in his England role We need a back up left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Looks like Botman will be going there after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Is Botman going to play with Burn? Trippier and Targett either side that's a very slow back line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Shameful bootlicking fan base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Newcastle fans are human garbage? Yeah that's pretty standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Botman. Cant decide if we should have been all over that or not, ie: is he as good as he is touted, or is he not quite all that? the fact we didnt go for him, tells me he's gonna be world class..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Also, they didn't beat Milan, they just decided the fee wasn't worth it. Newcastle again overpaying for talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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