AshVilla Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 23 hours ago, Zatman said: plus Leicester and maybe Brighton Remove the current scum 6 They won't be removed though. I'm sure a dozen pathways will be opened to allow them to compete in the major tournies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Sadly no chance whatsoever that the "staus Quo" will be allowed to change with the scum 6 losing their places at the top table. The constant dodgy rule changes & FA interference / result tampering will see to that, as we do see every season. VAR has become just another blanket of protection for those clubs so it's even harder now with the "checking club badge" approach which has now been incorporated into it. Add in 5 subs & dodgy behind the scenes financial deals to appease them (as happened to help prevent the ESL by all accounts) & other rumored dealings & you can see the joke it has all become. One or two clubs may eventually get in at some point but boy will it take some doing to bridge the moat of corruption surrounding those top 6 spaces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Biggest change they can make is clubs in Europe aren't in the league cup Will mean a fresh team in the EL every season They will bin the Cup off before they let that happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Nick Pope for 10 mill. Another good sensible deal. In fact its a brilliant deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, MWARLEY2 said: Nick Pope for 10 mill. Another good sensible deal. In fact its a brilliant deal. People get annoyed at praising them, but it's hard not to. Two outstanding deals so far. Two PL proven players who will start every game for them for £25m just doesn't happen any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I know they can’t go out yet and buy the top tier players, but Pope and Targett are a bit underwhelming considering the fanfare around the wealth at the club. I expected them go shopping at a level above where they are so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: People get annoyed at praising them, but it's hard not to. Two outstanding deals so far. Two PL proven players who will start every game for them for £25m just doesn't happen any more. 2 players that wouldn't get into our team. Solid signings for good fees but won't propel them into the elite. Least it shows they won't be spending a billion quid a year on Neymar and co 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Seem to be building a British spine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 They're going to buy 3 squads before they kick a CL ball At least pope probably would be enough to play in europe Targett is a signing they kind of have to make for that money but he's in the same boat as he was with us, he'll be replaced within 2 years Their project is the same as ours just with more squawking, not even convinced yet their owners will be willing to put more money in the pot than ours hopefully they don't do the youth infrastructure either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: Seem to be building a British spine If they are first team players I can’t see them going anywhere tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Xela said: 2 players that wouldn't get into our team. Correct. 21 minutes ago, Xela said: Solid signings for good fees but won't propel them into the elite. Correct. Padding out signings like this with serious quality like Guimaraes will though. They're two real bargains IMO. Hope they both flop spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: If they are first team players I can’t see them going anywhere tbh. not yet but people forget when City started they had Dunne, Richards, Onouha, Lescott and a young Joe Hart starting. They were all replaced over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: not yet but people forget when City started they had Dunne, Richards, Onouha, Lescott and a young Joe Hart starting. They were all replaced over time They were all better in their day than Targett weren’t they? I’d have that Joe Hart over Pope too. Hart won 2 PL’s, 2 league cups and 1 FA Cup. Edited June 23, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Correct. Correct. Padding out signings like this with serious quality like Guimaraes will though. They're two real bargains IMO. Hope they both flop spectacularly. I think guimares is the only certified EL / CL capable starter they have in the squad so far It will take them years and a lot of patience to get to where they want to go - like I said same with us I also don't see Howe being the man who gets them there and again like us let's see how damaging the year they get rid of him is They don't get top 4 within 5 years IMO, maybe not even 10 if Chelsea and Utd sort themselves out and Liverpool and City ride changing their managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: They were all better in their day than Targett weren’t they? I’d have that Joe Hart over Pope too. Hart won 2 PL’s, 2 league cups and 1 FA Cup. Richards No, Onouha No, Lescott No, people forget Lescott was used a lot at Everton at left back a lot....Dunne did make PFA team of the Year at Villa at least I would say the Newcastle way of building is more sensible than what we are currently doing as I fail to see what we are doing in the last year or so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Must say they are kind of smashing it. More of a slow build than the Robinho and Jo era of Man City it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, Zatman said: I would say the Newcastle way of building is more sensible than what we are currently doing as I fail to see what we are doing in the last year or so Wood, 30 Burn, 30 Trippier, 31, Pope, 30 (ok, doesn't matter as much for a GK) You have said in the past we have been 'short term' with our older signings but Newcastle are doing the same? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Spoony said: Must say they are kind of smashing it. More of a slow build than the Robinho and Jo era of Man City it would seem. It was only ever going to be slower than that. That approach is impossible now thanks to FFP. 57 minutes ago, Zatman said: I would say the Newcastle way of building is more sensible than what we are currently doing as I fail to see what we are doing in the last year or so What?! Targett 26 years old, not good enough for us. Nick Pope 30 years old and not likely to get any better. Trippier 31, and Burn 30. Guimares you could say is equivalent to Kamara. A bit older and more established, but also cost them lots more. We've bought countless of the hottest prospects in the u19 space the last two years And supplemented the youngest squad in the league, with 2 experienced first team heads in Coutinho and Carlos. You fished and caught this bait, but that is a bizarre take. Edited June 23, 2022 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, Spoony said: Must say they are kind of smashing it. More of a slow build than the Robinho and Jo era of Man City it would seem. I think there’s an obvious reason, FFP. It didn’t exist when city went from bang average to PL winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, Spoony said: Must say they are kind of smashing it. More of a slow build than the Robinho and Jo era of Man City it would seem. Smashing it? There would be riots on here if we did their business and they are supposed to be the next big thing. It could all change but at this stage they’ve done nothing apart from pad out their bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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