P3te Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I've read a few match reports today and i have to admit I couldn't help but smile when reading Pardews comments about the work rate and the reports of how hard they worked for each other. It's kind of renewed some of the optimism I felt earlier on in the summer. My frustrations have calmed a bit since the end of the window and I'm feeling slightly more positive about the approach we've taken. It is only 1 point so I'm not doing a full on 180 but I can see myself looking forward to games more. And to be honest, surprisingly I'm actually very excited to see bennett, Westwood and Benteke come into this team. Pretty fickle of you to be honest, I guess that's the power of a good performance. if we lose the next one he'll be telling us we're cast iron certainties for relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 3, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2012 I've read a few match reports today and i have to admit I couldn't help but smile when reading Pardews comments about the work rate and the reports of how hard they worked for each other. It's kind of renewed some of the optimism I felt earlier on in the summer. My frustrations have calmed a bit since the end of the window and I'm feeling slightly more positive about the approach we've taken. It is only 1 point so I'm not doing a full on 180 but I can see myself looking forward to games more. And to be honest, surprisingly I'm actually very excited to see bennett, Westwood and Benteke come into this team. Pretty fickle of you to be honest, I guess that's the power of a good performance. now now! fair enough, i'd have been critical if he'd insisted we were **** and going down and it was randy's fault! seems reasonable enough to me. newcastle was just the start though. we'll have days where the nice move that finished with ireland blazing over goes in, weimann nets his good chance and bent gets one of his chances in the net too... that was away from home, and they are just getting to grips with what lambert wants, and we have reinforcements and competition for places now i'm not saying we're going to be in europe next year but we have good reason not to have to be looking over our shoulders this year and try and finish as high as we can to make sure we can kick on next year with an improved bank balance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Heat maps from yesterdays game, he has got them working hard in the middle of the park. Here Like it! Half of that is Holman He was everywhere. Are we saying Newcastle had a player on both corner flags for the whole game, or is the map totally useless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 True, but some clubs are clearly spending it already - QPR, Sunderland ?? You could argue, with Lamberts austere approach we could in 2 - 3 years time be in a very robust place. Interestingly we still spent about 20m.would imagine it put us in the top 6-8 net spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Out of interest, how much did Norwich spend this summer compared to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Out of interest, how much did Norwich spend this summer compared to us? less only 7 clubs spent more iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Teams like Norwich are underspending and the owners are just lining their pockets See Blackpool as another example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Heat maps from yesterdays game, he has got them working hard in the middle of the park. Here Like it! Half of that is Holman He was everywhere. Are we saying Newcastle had a player on both corner flags for the whole game, or is the map totally useless? I was wondering what that was too. Did both teams run and celebrate their goals in that corner or something? How did they come up with that analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NulliSecundus Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I imagine the teams had quite a few corners so it would register as a prolonged period of heat on the corner spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Carefull now chaps. Regardless of how we've played, it's 1 draw and 2 losses against non-championship competing sides. Let's not overshoot the mark with regards to optimism. Nah. We will make Europe this season. That's the thing. Trying to be as objective as I can, I don't think we'll be far off. Honestly I have been changing my mind dramatically game to game. Exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I've read a few match reports today and i have to admit I couldn't help but smile when reading Pardews comments about the work rate and the reports of how hard they worked for each other. It's kind of renewed some of the optimism I felt earlier on in the summer. My frustrations have calmed a bit since the end of the window and I'm feeling slightly more positive about the approach we've taken. It is only 1 point so I'm not doing a full on 180 but I can see myself looking forward to games more. And to be honest, surprisingly I'm actually very excited to see bennett, Westwood and Benteke come into this team. Pretty fickle of you to be honest, I guess that's the power of a good performance. I haven't said I've completely changed, i'm still concerned but it would be pretty stupid to come and moan after a decent performance and a good result. If a stranger on the Internet thinks I'm fickle, oh well. At the end of the day I'm season ticket holder, of course I'm going to get enjoyment from a decent performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 We will get better, that's the really intriguing thing for me right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I've read a few match reports today and i have to admit I couldn't help but smile when reading Pardews comments about the work rate and the reports of how hard they worked for each other. It's kind of renewed some of the optimism I felt earlier on in the summer. My frustrations have calmed a bit since the end of the window and I'm feeling slightly more positive about the approach we've taken. It is only 1 point so I'm not doing a full on 180 but I can see myself looking forward to games more. And to be honest, surprisingly I'm actually very excited to see bennett, Westwood and Benteke come into this team. Pretty fickle of you to be honest, I guess that's the power of a good performance. if we lose the next one he'll be telling us we're cast iron certainties for relegation I'd rather give an honest opinion on what I see than just be a blind optimist. If I see improvements I'll comment on it, if I see negatives I'll comment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'd rather give an honest opinion on what I see than just be a blind optimist. If I see improvements I'll comment on it, if I see negatives I'll comment on it. if your honest opinion changes so quickly, so often, you have a problem somewhere along the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'd rather give an honest opinion on what I see than just be a blind optimist. If I see improvements I'll comment on it, if I see negatives I'll comment on it. if your honest opinion changes so quickly, so often, you have a problem somewhere along the line Yeah my opinion of the club has changed week in week out over the last two years. :bonk: Anyway thought you were off after your little tantrum towards anyone negative. Like i said if strangers on the internet think i'm fickle because i've commented on an improvement and enjoyed a good performance, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I might be lost in translation here, but wouldn't it be fickle if he kept being pessimistic and moan after a good performance? Or maybe it's fickle to get on his back for changing his view? Can't see anything wrong with changing your view after you see a positive change. John surely had some valid concerns. And we'd all share his view if there were another manager who shall not be named in charge doing the same signings. I have faith in Lambert, but as much as I hate to admit it that faith is more or less blind, however I prefer to remain naively positive then negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 According to google Fickle - Adjective : Changing frequently, esp. as regards one's loyalties, interests, or affection. Synonyms : inconstant - changeable - unsteady - variable - mutable Does Fickle always have to be a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Does Fickle always have to be a bad thing?Yes. If you look at the definitions at Thesaurus.com, synonyms are: arbitrary, capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable, unstable, unsteady, untrue, variable, volatile, whimsical, yo-yo Antonyms are: aware, cognizant, constant, faithful, reliable, stable, steady. So fickle is distinctly dodgy. Don't actually think BJ10 is being fickle however. He is changing his views for a reason - a better performance. That's quite scientific in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted September 4, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2012 Don't actually think BJ10 is being fickle however. He is changing his views for a reason - a better performance. That's quite scientific in my view. :shock: Swinging wildly between relegation to europe based on the last game played is "scientific"? Really? I would have thought a scientific approach would be based on the evidence or common facts over a number of games (e.g. possession rates, shots on goal, etc), not a one-off result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillakevBromsgrove Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 We may have spent 20 million but we have also got rid of a few players which kind of reduces the spend, why should we not be optimistic, for 3 years we have been fed crap football, no hope and no team spirit, we can now see the light at the end of the tunnel, may take a while to reach it, we may not even get there but we sure as hell see it, lets just enjoy the journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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