Rob182 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 @MikeAVFC It does seem like a mutual relationship and one that is fairly foolproof, but I still think there must be some flaws to running a club this way. What happens if one of the players that Mendes recommends is total dogshit? I think they’ve been quite fortunate that nearly all of their incoming signings have been of a high quality this season. I suppose the chances are that more will be good than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 10 hours ago, MikeAVFC said: Apparently all their current loans are with a view to permanant deals (they're supposed to be tying up deals for a few this month I believe). Tbh I thought the same as you about Mendes having read up his dodgy dealings at Valencia, but talking to my Wolves mate and doing a little digging, their owners and Mendes are basically in business together. I doubt he'd want to piss off the very people he's in business with by rinsing them for a quick buck. Think the use of an agent for this particular club is unique in that it's not purely Mendes wanting a quick buck, both work together. Ngl I'm a tad envious, they have the world's most powerful agent on their doorstep, purchasing bright talent from abroad for them with resale value. Meanwhile, we're stuck with potato head who signs his mates and old fogies with no long term strategy whatsoever. His mates? Can you elaborate on this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 09:24, Demitri_C said: His mates? Can you elaborate on this ? Signing players he's had at nearly all his clubs or he knows - Elmo, JT, Snodgrass, Samba, etc. I'm not saying this is a bad thing short term - it may be enough to get us promoted. But it's hardly a long term strategy signing these kinds of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted January 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 03:15, Rob182 said: @MikeAVFC It does seem like a mutual relationship and one that is fairly foolproof, but I still think there must be some flaws to running a club this way. What happens if one of the players that Mendes recommends is total dogshit? I think they’ve been quite fortunate that nearly all of their incoming signings have been of a high quality this season. I suppose the chances are that more will be good than not. If the future is agents replacing the scouting network of a club and a managers network, then they will be judged by the results. Mendes's reputation will be based on if he gets results for the club. A lesser more fly by night agent will get found out if he just palms off shite players to the clubs he works with/for. It some ways it is logical that clubs outsource a scouting network to agents and their assistants. Agents do have have (rightly) a scummy reputation but it is working for Wolves at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 hours ago, MikeAVFC said: Signing players he's had at nearly all his clubs or he knows - Elmo, JT, Snodgrass, Samba, etc. I'm not saying this is a bad thing short term - it may be enough to get us promoted. But it's hardly a long term strategy signing these kinds of players. I think it's a perfect strategy IF we get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 18:07, MikeAVFC said: Signing players he's had at nearly all his clubs or he knows - Elmo, JT, Snodgrass, Samba, etc. I'm not saying this is a bad thing short term - it may be enough to get us promoted. But it's hardly a long term strategy signing these kinds of players. Have to agree with you Mike, with the deals in place etc. and many contracts also up at the end of this season it is not like we are building for the future. That said, hopefully we can start doing this again once we are back in the Premier League and under a different manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Reality check for some Wolves fans last night with that defeat to lowly swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Reality check for some Wolves fans last night with that defeat to lowly swansea Lowly Swansea that are above them in the football pyramid? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2018 I wouldn’t say it was a reality check as both teams fielded changed line ups (from what I understand). But I’d be willing to bet that a fair few Wolves fans went into that tie thinking they’d get through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Reality check for some Wolves fans last night with that defeat to lowly swansea Did wolves have a strong team out? I can actually see Swansea maybe staying up with the new man they have got in. This wolves team would probably finish mid table in the prem. some promoted teams do quite well when they go up, so wolves are not the only club who could compete in the prem. The wolves fans I know, it's really gone to their head. I work with one, and when they don't win at the weekend, I wind him up by saying that's it now, you're on a downward spiral. I'm obviously joking, but he takes it seriously, and thinks I'm being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: Lowly Swansea that are above them in the football pyramid? Yes lowly Swansea who will be swapping leagues with them but season. (That's was wolves fans words not mine. 1 minute ago, Shropshire Lad said: I wouldn’t say it was a reality check as both teams fielded changed line ups (from what I understand). But I’d be willing to bet that a fair few Wolves fans went into that tie thinking they’d get through. 100% wolves fans I know thought they would win that game with ease. Fla do see they have been brought back down to earth. Alot of them have become so arrogant this year. This is what first time in 25 years or so since they finished above us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Did wolves have a strong team out? I can actually see Swansea maybe staying up with the new man they have got in. This wolves team would probably finish mid table in the prem. some promoted teams do quite well when they go up, so wolves are not the only club who could compete in the prem. The wolves fans I know, it's really gone to their head. I work with one, and when they don't win at the weekend, I wind him up by saying that's it now, you're on a downward spiral. I'm obviously joking, but he takes it seriously, and thinks I'm being serious. Send him this to wind him up further... "Ohh winters ere aye it" "Cold aye we"... Bubbles bosted aye it".. Dow like the cold done thay" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted January 18, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2018 I did expect us to win this tie. Should have won the first game really but played most of it with ten men. For both games most of our big hitters didn't play, so it was mostly a changed side. In away games against premier league teams this season our second string has won v Southampton, drawn with a a strong Manchester City, and lost to Swansea, so not too bad. Alternatively we've not won in two games - crisis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Reality check for some Wolves fans last night with that defeat to lowly swansea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Andy81 said: I did expect us to win this tie. Should have won the first game really but played most of it with ten men. For both games most of our big hitters didn't play, so it was mostly a changed side. In away games against premier league teams this season our second string has won v Southampton, drawn with a a strong Manchester City, and lost to Swansea, so not too bad. Alternatively we've not won in two games - crisis! ARrr... Bubbles bosted aye it me mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted January 18, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Kingman said: ARrr... Bubbles bosted aye it me mon It has a bit, still think we'll have enough to stay up this year though Gutted Lambert has been snapped up to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, Andy81 said: It has a bit, still think we'll have enough to stay up this year though Gutted Lambert has been snapped up to be honest! 2 wins in last 6 games, one of them being 95th min at BC. Cold snaps here aye it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Could Be Rotterdam Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Andy81 said: Alternatively we've not won in two games - crisis! Ive always said Wolves fans are hysterical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted January 19, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 11:13, Kingman said: 2 wins in last 6 games, one of them being 95th min at BC. Cold snaps here aye it Yep, no wins and one goal in the last three games! We'll be lucky to scrape the playoffs! In all seriousness, I am slightly concerned about the game tomorrow against Forest. I think it'll be a struggle. If we fail to win that, then, well, it'll officially be a blip. The whole point of having a points buffer is to handle blips though to be fair. Winter is here! Barnsley for you might not be an easy game either, but you should have enough to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2018 You'll walk the league and thrash Forest. Wouldn't worry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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