TheAuthority Posted December 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2016 14 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: The Fermi Paradox, rather incredibly, doesn't take time into account. I'm not sure I follow. Isn't the paradox that there should be lots of Type III civilizations (Sagan's classification) but there isn't. So it's a discussion about when 'the great filter' occurs in the advancement of a civilization? Which is all about the time-wimy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2017 It's that time of year again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I often find a correlation between people that aren't prepared to trust experts on science, brexit or the economy and people that are prepared to believe youtube based experts on conspiracies. We can't possibly know that consuming 1.6 times the earth's resources might end up being a bad thing. We can prove that George Bush has flicky lizard eyes and took all the people in the WTC for food for our alien overlords. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 10, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: I often find a correlation between people that aren't prepared to trust experts on science, brexit or the economy and people that are prepared to believe youtube based experts on conspiracies. Aye, there's a reason based around the way the brain works, too. Humans don't naturally "work" on facts. The way we're wired up is to work on "stories". And so if a "story" rings as credible with someone, based on their experiences, then it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible to dissuade them of their belief using facts and evidence. The only way to persuade them (us) is to provide a more credible story, and even then it's not easy. So someone telling a story that casts the Government as criminals will fit with the story many people experience of the government shafting them or not helping them and being a force for bad. Showing them debris, or structural drawings or investigators evidence doesn't fit with their established story understanding and so is dismissed....etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2017 Some people have moved desks at work. There's now a guy who sits near me who doesn't shut up. Literally talks all day. Anyway, one of his favourite subjects this week is the 9/11 conspiracy. He's completely convinced that it's real and the US Government did 9/11 It's mental. It's take all my self restraint not to go over and shut him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 This popped up on my FB timeline today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Genie said: This popped up on my FB timeline today I read the anti trump brigade we're wishing for his family to get wiped out by the hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 9 hours ago, Chindie said: It's that time of year again. That's just what they want you to think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 How does the originator of that meme know that those people haven't donated money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, blandy said: Aye, there's a reason based around the way the brain works, too. Humans don't naturally "work" on facts. The way we're wired up is to work on "stories". And so if a "story" rings as credible with someone, based on their experiences, then it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible to dissuade them of their belief using facts and evidence. The only way to persuade them (us) is to provide a more credible story, and even then it's not easy. So someone telling a story that casts the Government as criminals will fit with the story many people experience of the government shafting them or not helping them and being a force for bad. Showing them debris, or structural drawings or investigators evidence doesn't fit with their established story understanding and so is dismissed....etc. Do the people who are wired this way also more susceptible to be poor spellers too? I do find a very strong correlation between poor spelling, expert distrust, and general acceptance of batshit conspiracy theories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Trump has a long history of saying he will donate, but then doesn't actually donate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: Trump has a long history of saying he will donate, but then doesn't actually donate. That's because he'd have to tap up Vlad to get a loan and Vlad says NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 9 hours ago, darrenm said: Do the people who are wired this way also more susceptible to be poor spellers too? I do find a very strong correlation between poor spelling, expert distrust, and general acceptance of batshit conspiracy theories. And they can't ALL be dyslexic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Czechlad said: Trump has a long history of saying he will donate, but then doesn't actually donate. Allegedly many people who have worked for him would say you could change 'donate' there for a shorter, 3 letter, word beginning with P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Some people have moved desks at work. There's now a guy who sits near me who doesn't shut up. Literally talks all day. Anyway, one of his favourite subjects this week is the 9/11 conspiracy. He's completely convinced that it's real and the US Government did 9/11 It's mental. It's take all my self restraint not to go over and shut him up. You would be quite in the right to punch him in the face repeatedly. 'Truthers' are complete scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Chindie said: You would be quite in the right to punch him in the face repeatedly. 'Truthers' are complete scum. It's tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2017 16 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Some people have moved desks at work. There's now a guy who sits near me who doesn't shut up. Literally talks all day. Anyway, one of his favourite subjects this week is the 9/11 conspiracy. He's completely convinced that it's real and the US Government did 9/11 It's mental. It's take all my self restraint not to go over and shut him up. Every time he talks, throw a paper aeroplane at him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Every time he talks, throw a paper aeroplane at him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2017 10 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Every time he talks, throw a paper aeroplane at him. Tell him the government put voices in your head that told you to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Something here for those interested (possibly not for those who, on demand, squeal something involving the phrase "tin foil hat" at every mention of state malfeasance). Only the first part of the article copied here. Many instances documented. Quote “False flag terrorism” occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people. The attack is then falsely blamed on the enemy in order to justify going to war against that enemy. Yes, it’s true: There really are conspiracies. As the popular TV show “The X-Files” notes, all you have to do is look because “the truth is out there.” But unfortunately many in our society have been conditioned by the old media and politicos not to take any mention of conspiracies seriously, and this despite the fact that conspiracies have been real and have occurred much more frequently than many people realize. In fact, one website – Washington’s Blog – has documented 58 of them in recent days, and many are quite shocking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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