danceoftheshamen Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I remember many teams playing well but not getting the results the deserved ending in relegation. WBA, Bolton, West Ham etc etc .. the giveaway sign is when a team plays "well" but cannot finish or defend.... That perfectly sums up Aston Villa 2012/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It goes like this - back the manager with another 30m now and save our club - do **** all and don't be suprised to be rock bottom 20th before february with no way back at this rate. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I also think we are going down. I think the damage has been done. We have played 22 games and amassed a pitiful 19 points. We only have 16 games left to play. We have the worst goal difference in the league. Does anyone seriously think we are going to even get to that 40 point 'safe' total? I don't. So we need 7 wins from 16 games or 6 wins and 3 draws etc. Not a fecking chance with this lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So we need 7 wins from 16 games or 6 wins and 3 draws etc. Not a fecking chance with this lot Worrying really when you put it like that. We need players, badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 West Brom V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Newcastle Everton V Aston Villa Aston Villa V West Ham Arsenal V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Man City Reading V Aston Villa Aston Villa V QPR Aston Villa V Liverpool Stoke V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Fulham Man Utd V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Sunderland Norwich V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Chelsea Wigan V Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I see 3 wins there on current form. Maybe 2 draws. Form needs to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) West Brom V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Newcastle Everton V Aston Villa Aston Villa V West Ham Arsenal V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Man City Reading V Aston Villa Aston Villa V QPR Aston Villa V Liverpool Stoke V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Fulham Man Utd V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Sunderland Norwich V Aston Villa Aston Villa V Chelsea Wigan V Aston Villa Seeing as we got turned over at home by the likes of Wigan and Southampton, that list looks scary. That said, with a couple of good players signed, we can grind out the required results. The thing that looms large is the goal difference. That could be the thing that sinks us. Edited January 14, 2013 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Last season I was always confident that we would just about manage to survive. Under Houllier I was confident that we would survive (before the arrival of Bent I was starting to worry though). Even under Taylor I was confident of survival. Fast forward to the present and I've never been this worried about relegation before! I've been a season ticket holder for almost twenty consecutive seasons and I've seen many lows but I've never feared for our safety to the point of trying to prepare myself mentally for relegation, until now. I honestly can't see how we are going to get ourselves clear of it without spending big. Very worrying indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Vote changed we are down down, deeper and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Last season I was always confident that we would just about manage to survive. Under Houllier I was confident that we would survive (before the arrival of Bent I was starting to worry though). Even under Taylor I was confident of survival. Fast forward to the present and I've never been this worried about relegation before! I've been a season ticket holder for almost twenty consecutive seasons and I've seen many lows but I've never feared for our safety to the point of trying to prepare myself mentally for relegation, until now. I honestly can't see how we are going to get ourselves clear of it without spending big. Very worrying indeed! Yep, same for me. Last two seasons I thought we were bad but had enough about us to be safe. This season we look much worse. Unless something major changes we are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If (and I think we will) we go down, I think the club go into deep turmoil. Looking at the high earners at the club I can't see many leaving or those that do we will take a massive hit on... Dunne and Warnock - contracts up both leave on frees Given - cant see anyone paying his wages, maybe leave to a newly promoted side but with Villa still paying a % Hutton and Ireland - cant see anyone wanting these pair and will be left on our books Makoun - possibly another loan to a French club Bent - Proven prem scorer and can see being but would we get a lot? £8-10m max? Nzog - possibly be sold but again wouldn't recoup much £2-4m? Gabby - Can't see anyone wanting him, especially with the wages he's on Then others who coul be sold: Kea - back to Dutch league £1-2m Vlaar - might be worth a shout to a lower prem side - £2-4m Benteke - A top side wouldn't take the gamble as is inconsistent atm £10m? Can see anyone else being wanted, that would leave us with a poor championship side with limited funds coming in and still have high earners.. (obviously these are all just rough estimates on what I believe we'd get) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Last two seasons I thought we were bad but had enough about us to be safe. This season we look much worse. Unless something major changes we are going down. This. Ask any neutral who has seen us play this season and they'll tell you that we are going down. We have a piss poor side that belongs in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 This. Ask any neutral who has seen us play this season and they'll tell you that we are going down. We have a piss poor side that belongs in the championship. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 This was the first weekend that I thought we are down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've just changed my vote from "not going down" to "unsure". This is the first time ever (even in the past 2 seasons when people were saying that we were 100% guaranteed to go down) that i feel like we have a good chance of getting relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Was thinking about this... If you count the 5 clubs seriously in with a chance of relegation as Villa, Southampton, Wigan, QPR and Reading, all the matches between those clubs are "six pointers". Unfortunately, we have already played 5 of our 8 matches in this group and have managed 1 win, 1 draw and 3 losses. 4 points from a possible 15. Only 3 more 6-pointers to go, Reading and Wigan away and QPR at home. So if we do get out of this, it will have to come from improved performances against teams in the higher reaches of the table. Our chances to wound our relegation rivals are running out. Edited January 14, 2013 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Indeed, our remaining matches (excluding relegation rivals) break down as follows: Current top 4: 4 games Current top 5-10: 4 games Current11-17: 5 games So if the main hope is (to quote Ciaran Clark) "Our luck will turn if we keep showing fighting spirit", it's gonna have to be a big turn of luck and a lot of fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'm more worried than I was, as a lot of fans are, but I still have faith that we'll turn it around. It can be done and we've shown enough glimpses of the team in there to be able to do it - not going to be easy but all is not lost yet and I feel that I need to remain positive and supportive of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'm more worried than I was, as a lot of fans are, but I still have faith that we'll turn it around. It can be done and we've shown enough glimpses of the team in there to be able to do it - not going to be easy but all is not lost yet and I feel that I need to remain positive and supportive of the team. You really don't have any basis for that comment - you have no idea what they're doing behind the scenes, nobody besides the people involved themselves do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 14, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2013 Our little mini crap league TEAM P W D L F A Pts GD PPG LP 1 Southampton 6 5 0 1 11 4 15 +7 2.5 15 2 Wigan Athletic 5 3 1 1 10 7 10 +3 2 17 3 Newcastle United 5 2 2 1 7 5 8 +2 1.6 16 4 Aston Villa 6 1 2 3 4 10 5 -6 0.83 18 5 Queens Park Rangers 5 0 3 2 5 8 3 -3 0.6 20 6 Reading 5 0 2 3 5 8 2 -3 0.4 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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