sne Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Just now, Michael118 said: I can't remember many own goals, penalties, red cards or slips ups during the period he was playing with confidence. Well I can't really be responsible your what you remember now can I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, sne said: Well I can't really be responsible your what you remember now can I? Nor can I be responsible for what you can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 31 minutes ago, Bunnski said: I don't see this as positive news. Only a couple of days ago the manager said he was staying and now when given the first opportunity to go, Clark is jumping ship. This to me is a sign that not much has changed within the club and he doesn't want to hang around for more of the same as the past few years. All the signs are that we are under prepared and I'm losing hope with this new regime. I personally think that was RDM using the media in a bit of gamesmanship. RDM obv knew what was coming has put that in the press as a way of forcing Clark's hand. Firstly, it might make him think about staying and make it harder to leave, Secondly, if he decided to take up the Newcastle offer it looks like hes turned his back on Villa after claiming to want to stay............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Take the money and run he is no loss to the club...(way too many mistakes in him) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 39 minutes ago, thabucks said: Why is fox to blame? For safeguarding our financial future by putting relegation wage clauses in all new contracts ? The guy was awful for us in so many respects without making shit up to fit your own narrative. No for putting in stupid release clause of 5 mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, HeyAnty said: No for putting in stupid release clause of 5 mill To be fair, this would be normal practice. The players probably wouldn't have joined us or accepted the 50% reduction in wages upon relegation without an easier route out should they have the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Adbo9 said: To be fair, this would be normal practice. The players probably wouldn't have joined us or accepted the 50% reduction in wages upon relegation without an easier route out should they have the option. Dont sign them then or in Clark's case dont give him a new deal. Dr T is right in that respect, right attitude in a player is as important as anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) Really not fussed, think for Newcastle this is a poor signing, sooner Clark isn't near the Villa first team the better for me. Edited August 2, 2016 by Tommo_b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted August 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: sooner Clarke isn't near the Villa first team the better for me. Bit harsh that. He only joined a couple of months ago. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Bit harsh that. He only joined a couple of months ago. Lol fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Just now, Tommo_b said: Lol fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Bit harshe that. He only joined a couple of months ago. Fixed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Dont sign them then or in Clark's case dont give him a new deal. Dr T is right in that respect, right attitude in a player is as important as anything else. Aggreed, but id hazard a guess this is the case in most top flight players contracts, but Id hazard a guess its the case in most players contracts, so Its either join in the rat race, or never sign a player. At the end of the day, no club starts the season thinking theyre going to be relegated either. At least these clauses cover eyeryone. Player gets easier route out. If they stay, club doesn't get impacted on massive wages. If he leaves, Club get fee which probably gets their money back. Win Win I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Tbh Clark epitomises Villa over the last 5 seasons.Great potential, failed to develop, went backwards, never going to be good enough.Add Westwood, Gabby, Sinclair, Hutton, Richards, Bunn, Steer, Bacuna etc, to the same list. As long as these players are in the squad, we are going nowhere.IF we are serious about promotion, then we need to be buying players who will be good enough, if they are not, then get rid.Clark is not, and £5m is good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Sky saying he is having a medical. Villa man my arse...not that I care RDM better have some deals lined up before window shuts, after Wednesday we have a few winnable games coming up. Need to get off to a good start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I like Clark. Has always showed commitment and some fight, and a villa lad too. But i also dont rate him as a defender. Too many errors and needs a constant voice to guide him. Best for both if he moves on and i wish him all the best (individually, not for his new team and teammates) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I would normally wish clark well, but as he has gone to those bitter skunks i hope he flops and is a disaster for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilchard Posted August 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2016 Ciaran Clark. His hilariously true to form own goal against Sweden in the Euros. That time against Man City when he tried a 'Cruyff Turn' against Dzecko only to lose the ball and the game because Tevez scored in the last minute. That mistake he made for Ireland against Austria which led to a goal. The regular 'Clark will learn from his mistakes' soundbytes - he's 27 now. At what point does it need to be said "He's not very good"? As an attacking threat in the box for set pieces, he was non-existent. A chance against Swansea last year in particular that should have put is in front comes to mind. That horrorshow against Southampton last season, at fault for the first two goals. Having the ball taken off him for Josh King to score the winner for Bournemouth at home last year. Being a major part of the worst team we have had in many years, and a gutless defence that folds under the slightest pressure. £5million for this terrible, terrible footballer is not just a steal, it's laughable. Newcastle, despite this faux rivalry that seems to be going on are a far bigger club than having Ciaran Clark and deserving a far better player than Ciaran Clark. He's nowhere near Championship standard, let alone Premier League standard. He has no leadership skills, his positioning skills don't exist - he and Guzan were responsible for so many missed points last season that we'd have looked a lot better in the points tally last year if we'd have had someone competent in their places. Forget the duds we signed from the French league last year. Clark was the first one I wanted out of the club. If he had been signed rather than come up through the ranks the bloke would have been nowhere near the first team. It also says a lot about him that he had (disappointingly) told RDM that he was staying, only to take the first chance of a move - from a club which has stuck with him despite his complete ineptness - to a team which will be up there trying to claim one of the two promotion spots that we will want. The best thing he has done at this club is move on. It should force the club's hand into actually signing someone else. And whilst it'll be tough identifying a player who will help make our defence more solid, it won't be hard finding a player who won't make the weekly ridiculous mistake that would often cost us a goal. Chuckle Brother #1 gone. I'll pedal the bike up there for you, Ciaran. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 The trouble is, Clark isn't great but he is better than that **** Lescott and we haven't got many options. I'd have kept him for now but seeing as though he is off, we need to sign a replacement asap. (I won't hold my breath) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 38 minutes ago, Adbo9 said: Aggreed, but id hazard a guess this is the case in most top flight players contracts, but Id hazard a guess its the case in most players contracts, so Its either join in the rat race, or never sign a player. At the end of the day, no club starts the season thinking theyre going to be relegated either. At least these clauses cover eyeryone. Player gets easier route out. If they stay, club doesn't get impacted on massive wages. If he leaves, Club get fee which probably gets their money back. Win Win I say I suspect there are standard contracts, the same as in business, and it is a matter of putting numbers in boxes. Possibly even for clubs at the top of the food chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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