Grasshopper Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: It can't be a coincidence that most of there's players look much better with Okore next to them. This There will always be players you can always play alongside certain other players and get away with it. Clark is one of these players But cut him some slack and consider some of the S**t he's had to play alongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2016 Same could be said of those having to play alongside him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Mantis said: I don't think he'll ever be a consistent regular starter for us but he's a decent squad player. I'd love to see him see out his career with us as a true one-club man. You enjoy Championship football then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I'm always pleased when Ciaran does well. Scoring a pretty goal, a game-winner, is always something to remember for a center back. I don't really expect him to be any better than this, but I wouldn't rule out him being a first choice CB at Villa. Edited January 20, 2016 by AVTuco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If we drop down to league one maybe. He shouldn't be anywhere near a premier league side or a team looking for promotion. Very poor player and consistency has always been his problem. 1 good game (yesterday) he will follow it up with 4 absolutely woeful performances. That is Ciaran Clark. You can just tell certain teams know he is a weak spot. I'm happy to keep him as cover or the odd cup game but certainly don't want him starting league (championship or PL) games for us this season or next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Would I be alone in preferring him to Lescott? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 6 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Ah this old argument. Benteke is shit, so is Delph, glad to be rid of them. Clark may not be very good, I can accept that argument. He hasn't done enough to earn a nice to a better club sure, but outside of that the players he has had to play next to have very little to do with him. It can't be a coincidence that most of there's players look much better with Okore next to them. Lescott? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, rodders0223 said: You enjoy Championship football then? Take it you didn't read the first part of my post? I never said I thought he should be a start - he's a useful squad player, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wouldn't lose any sleep if we sold him...would imagine Baker would be more suitable to championship football especially as he's had a year at Bristol. Okore and someone new with Baker and another cheap reserve is probably what I'd be looking for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Would I be alone in preferring him to Lescott? It's really a tough choice today. I think the whole CB quartet we have is pretty level. Okore the silent number one I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Okore>Lescott>Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Lescott? Yep. Lescott, Vlaar, Baker, Clark... You're not alone in preferring Clark to Lescott, no. But there's not a huge difference between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 As it stands Lescott is the better bet for premier league as he has a nice combination going with Okore and is better in the air. Obviously if we drop his wages won't be sustainable in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2016 A couple of weeks ago I'd have taken CLark over Lescott. But, despite his error against Leicester, I actually think Lescott has done pretty well the past couple of games. He and Okore seem to be the better partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 He has good games and bad games no consistency with him he is either good or very poor no in between unfortunately we see more of the poor Ciaran Clark .Has more bad games than good ones . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 even as an Irishman I cant wait for the comedy that is Zlatan vs Clark in the summer. David vs Goliath eat your heart out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 13 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Would I be alone in preferring him to Lescott? I'd have him before Lescott but not at the moment. Lescott's been playing well and deserves to hold onto his spot. Is very slow though and it will more thank likely cost us at some point. But until it does let him fight for his spot along with Guzan and maybe when they get their next chance they'll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm rather hoping that he'll get a start against Stoke. If he doesn't it would indicate to me an attitude problem, which would be a real shame because I really rate Clark when he's fit and confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I have always thought that a successful CB pairing consists of a leader and one willing to be led. Lescott / Richards: Would Richards as captain (even as a CB rookie) take instructions from Lescott? Not a good combo. Lescott / Okore: experienced, albeit slow leader, with a strong and agile understudy willing to be led. Clark / Okore last season wasn't too bad. I believe Clark needs to be calling the shots when he's playing. Okore has the physical attributes, but not the experience. Richards / Clark: Rookie senior CB. Disaster from the outset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Obviously we cant replace the full team next season. He would be one of two or three i would actually keep and start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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