AndyBM Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 the problem we have, is that he might not be good enough for the premier league, seeing as we will be in the championship next season is he not worth keeping until we can bounce back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He's not good enough for the championship either He gets out muscled by just about everyone at least Baker has the physical attributes to play in the championship i guess Clark will get destroyed in that division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I thought Richards and Clark might be a decent combo at start of season but looks more like a comedy act with each passing week. Really when you deeply look at it the other centre half Clark has consistantly shown good form alongside is Okore in all his time here. Just shows me we really need to keep Okore for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 so seeing as this is the clark thread, as weve all agreed that hes rubbish in this league and is going to be rubbish in the championship, next question is, how much is he worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Probably a decent amount given he's contracted for another 4 years and will probably be a starter in Euro 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Considering he is contracted for another 4 years about minus 8m quid I would say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The only time he has looked really good at the back for us is when he is the leader, he has been crap this season but I don't think playing alongside and taking orders from Richards is ever going to be a good thing for any defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Good ball winner, awful defender. Would be happy for him to never put the shirt on again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2015 Unfortunately Ciaran has become an embarrasment. He showed promise last season, but obviously it was just a fluke. Too bad, I always liked him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 of all the shit today I didnt think he was that bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 15 hours ago, Bunnski said: The only time he has looked really good at the back for us is when he is the leader, he has been crap this season but I don't think playing alongside and taking orders from Richards is ever going to be a good thing for any defender. Not sure how taking orders from Micah results in him being nutmegged, over commiting on challenges, turning like a tug boat, being out muscled at every opportunity and generally being **** awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 29, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2015 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Not sure how taking orders from Micah results in him being nutmegged, over commiting on challenges, turning like a tug boat, being out muscled at every opportunity and generally being **** awful. It doesn't, but there's some truth to what Bunnski said. Ciaran was at his best when he was leading the line (playing with Okore). Paired up with Vlaar, and he was always unconfortable. But yeah, it's all in the past now and means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 On 29/12/2015 at 14:49, AVTuco said: It doesn't, but there's some truth to what Bunnski said. Ciaran was at his best when he was leading the line (playing with Okore). Paired up with Vlaar, and he was always unconfortable. But yeah, it's all in the past now and means nothing. Maybe it has more to do with having a good understanding with Okore than actually leading the defence. I've always like him and had high hopes for it and I thought he had actually graduated as a proper CB last season. But after this season I'm done with him, he joke of a defender, he's less reliable than Sanchez ffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Turning like a tug boat. Awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I remember people saying things like this players such as Davis, Gardner, and Albrighton. They have gone on and done better things away from here. I not sure if it's a curse, but managers over the last few years have struggled to get the bets out of some players. He has made some mistakes this year, but so as everybody else. Sadly, if you play in defense, it stands out more than most positions on the field, except goalkeeper. We all know the team is weak, and it is putting massive pressure on the defense. Defensively as a team, we are not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpants Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Looks good when played with Okore. Just like Lescott. Wonder what thats all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 could his awful form be partly down to the fact that hes left exposed and vulnerable most of the time by our inept captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, kevpants said: Looks good when played with Okore. Just like Lescott. Wonder what thats all about. it means Okore is a good defender 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I dunno, some mistakes he makes have nothing to do with his partner. I accept it can affect his overall game, but that's not really the problem with Clark. The problem is that he f's up way too often. if he gets easily beaten in the air it has nothing to do with his partner. If he can't controll a ball and loses it like he did at Norwich (he won it back, but the mistake was there nonetheless) it has nothing to do with his partner. If he gets physically bullied by Dembele it has nothing to do with his partner. If he totally forgets to mark his man it also doesn't have much to do with his partner. And if he needs Okore to remind him to mark Mbokani then he obviously isn't a good enough player for the Premier League. And I say this with sadness as he was probably my faviourite player to come out of our accademy in the last years, but enough is enough, he's 26 now, he should almost be in his prime and plays like a schoolboy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Clark probably best tactic is his lunging/late challenges and players that usually have to resort to this are dreadful at reading the game and causes trouble for the team. though its loved in the English game as brilliant defending Jamie Carragher stole a living from same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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