HanoiVillan Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 'Obviously (to me, bearing in mind that a] I've seen him play live several times myself and been impressed most times, b] he's a highly-rated youth prospect in English football, and c] two nations wanted him to declare for them based on his prospects, as rated by professionals) not dog shit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: 'Obviously (to me, bearing in mind that a] I've seen him play live several times myself and been impressed most times, You sure you've been watching him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Woodytom said: You sure you've been watching him? Yes, I just don't go to many games. I've been lucky to attend most of the ones he's been decent in, and miss most of the ones he's been shit in. I did sit through the stinker against Wycombe though. This is largely an artefact of my own personal attendance policy, which is only to go to games that I think we have a plausible possibility of winning, which this season has mostly been lower-league cup games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 4, 2016 Playing well for the reserves tonight and showing a bit of passion in what's a feisty sounding game against the Albion. Came off after 75 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 This season I dont think I have seen one player get really passionate and rely the side up when we are losing or playing poorly. Grealish is probably the most likely to do that with this current crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: This season I dont think I have seen one player get really passionate and rely the side up when we are losing or playing poorly. Grealish is probably the most likely to do that with this current crop Aye, rally them up for a pub crawl! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 If someone offered 2 or 3 M for him i'd snap their hands off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 38 minutes ago, Richard said: If someone offered 2 or 3 M for him i'd snap their hands off What if he then went on to play regularly for that club and developed into a decent premiership footballer? Wouldn't you rather keep him for another year and see if he can make the grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: What if he then went on to play regularly for that club and developed into a decent premiership footballer? Wouldn't you rather keep him for another year and see if he can make the grade? Ifs buts and maybes Based on the here and now my opinion is he is over hyped, has a shit attitude, acts like billy big bollox around the club and will become the next crappy hebangedawhore if we dont get rid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villanwesty88 Posted April 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2016 47 minutes ago, Richard said: If someone offered 2 or 3 M for him i'd snap their hands off We can't let another potentially very good player go for what can only be described as pennies in Premier League terms. Especially with all the PL sides about to have a bump in revenue. £2-3m is a joke. We let Cahill go for £5m and he goes on to play for England and win the CL and he was pretty raw at that stage like Grealish is now. Why bother having an academy if all we are going to do is let them go? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: What if he then went on to play regularly for that club and developed into a decent premiership footballer? Wouldn't you rather keep him for another year and see if he can make the grade? I know you are asking Richard, but IMO, whether he develops or not is up to his own head and the coaching he gets. The setup we have here, with his current attitude has not worked. So, for me it depends on the new setup. Without dramatic changes in his attitude and in the coaches he will learn from, he will not develop "into a decent premiership footballer." So, we have nothing to fear letting him go. His attittude looked to be improved v Chelsea (post-Remi) but I fear that reinforcing his petulant lack of effort will strengthen that behavior. I'm tempted to argue that you cut him loose to set an example, but I think Gabby, Richards, and Lescott would do that more effectively. Cutting them loose without a second thought MIGHT help Jack grow up a bit. So, for my answer... we have nothing to fear unless his attitude and "coach-ability" change. We'll know that a few weeks into pre-season and can cut him loose then if his head is not in the right place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Normally i'd say 2 - 3 million your having a laugh But based on the way this club is run i wouldn't be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Ifs buts and maybes Based on the here and now my opinion is he is over hyped, has a shit attitude, acts like billy big bollox around the club and will become the next crappy hebangedawhore if we dont get rid Obviously that is your opinion and you're welcome to it. However I would suggest that pretty much any team in our position would make sure they retained players of Jack's profile. It would be a disaster to let Jack go, and if he were to leave I'm quite sure a PL club would pick him up. If you believe his attitude is beyond repair that's one thing. He's obnoxious for sure, but he's still young, in human and in football terms. However, I believe his potential is unquestionable. Its up to him as to whether he reaches that potential or not. He's a hand worth twisting on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Normally i'd say 2 - 3 million your having a laugh But based on the way this club is run i wouldn't be surprised we will end up doing what Pompey had to do with Begovic and pay a club a fee who didnt sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted April 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2016 Taking 2 or 3 million for Grealish at this point would be up there with the most stupid decisions made under the Lerner era. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 34 minutes ago, Richard said: Ifs buts and maybes Based on the here and now my opinion is he is over hyped, has a shit attitude, acts like billy big bollox around the club and will become the next crappy hebangedawhore if we dont get rid Yes, based on the here and now. But this season and last isn't the normal kind of environment for a player to develop in. Realistically, have any of our players developed this season? I agree he does seem to have a bad attitude, he seems to think he's made it when in reality he's achieved f all. He's made more mistakes than he has goals for sure. But, for the sake of a few million I'd rather give him a chan e to prove himself with Villa. If, that's a big one, he can prove he has the right attitude. If he can bring a positive attitude and curb his stupidity then he might just make a good player. If not then off he goes, it's worth a look though surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 fair play to you its your round. guess im just slightly in a different space re grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Richard said: If someone offered 2 or 3 M for him i'd snap their hands off He will be worth 10 times that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Richard said: hebangedawhore Edited April 5, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Decent manager and some better professionals around him and he'll come right. Look at the morons in the team around him, he's had a Gabby to look upto ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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