Demitri_C Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Suprised Cack hasnt started him and favours the likes of bacuna instead. Ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted May 9, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2016 21 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Cack Stop this. Please! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 On 05/04/2016 at 18:43, DCJonah said: Taking 2 or 3 million for Grealish at this point would be up there with the most stupid decisions made under the Lerner era. Yep. He might not be a good player but we should at least wait until we get a manager in who's able to give the lad a chance to show what he can do before we consider selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 hours ago, villa89 said: Yep. He might not be a good player but we should at least wait until we get a manager in who's able to give the lad a chance to show what he can do before we consider selling him. How many managers before we hold our hands up and say, yeah, actually, he doesn't start in the country's shittest team because he's garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Woodytom said: How many managers before we hold our hands up and say, yeah, actually, he doesn't start in the country's shittest team because he's garbage? HOT CONTRARIAN TAKE: Since Eric Black's teamsheets are in fact a negative indicator of quality, congratulations Jack on the vote of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icouldtelltheworld Posted May 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2016 I find it astounding, particularly considering the recent exploits of one Marc Albrighton, that any fan would want to get rid of Grealish immediately at this stage and be ready to dismiss him as garbage. He's clearly got potential, he was brilliant at times at the end of last season, not just the semi-final but West Ham at home, that crazy Man City game where Sanchez scored I remember him running up the field and gliding past 3 or 4 City players before they had to take him out. You could say he only looked good because he played with Delph next to him and Benteke up front - but by the same measure they'd both been dreadful for most of the season until Jack's run of form. The start of this season we looked best when he played well, not often enough admittedly, but against Blues and Leicester he showed what he can do. He's a 20 year old local lad, with high expectations, in the worst Villa team in most people's memories. People are expecting him to be the star, yet this was the first season he'd gone into expecting to be in the starting eleven from the off. He will need to mature and work hard to realise his potential, but it's so **** obvious that here's a technically gifted player who actually wants to play for this club, I just don't get how he can be written off at this stage, based on this season. It's also clear that we are severely lacking in decent footballing role models at our club, his behaviour isn't that surprising when it will have been Gabby's arm round his shoulder the last few years, but he's still young enough to work hard and improve. hopefully will if we can sort our mess of a squad out. It'd be a shame if he left here having not been given a real chance to shine and went on to be excellent elsewhere. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 He showed enough under Sherwood last season to suggest he should be persisted with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 11 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: HOT CONTRARIAN TAKE: Since Eric Black's teamsheets are in fact a negative indicator of quality, congratulations Jack on the vote of confidence. A negative indicator of quality based on what? Our opinion as fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Woodytom said: A negative indicator of quality based on what? Our opinion as fans? What else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What else? Well exactly. All you've got to support your claim that black's line ups are shit is our own opinion. There's certainly no sustained performance evidence with certain players of this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 He'll either be brilliant next season or completely fade into insignificance in my opinion. Can't see there being anything in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Typical second season syndrome for young players ! Most young players seem to go through it. It's the time they start believing in their own hype and start acting like they are the best players in the world. It's the season where they stop fighting like they did in their first season cause A: they aren't as excited and eager to impress compared to first season and B: They don't think it is necessary. Look at Ross Barkley, he had it last season and it is happening to John Stones now. If people expect a youngster to come in and to continuously play without flaw, then you are being unrealistic. Even though Grealish does seem like he has some growing up to do. Edited May 10, 2016 by Chicken Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Crossroads for Grealish this summer. Continue partying or focus on football? Stay at Villa or move to another club? I for one hope he rolls up his socks, stays at Villa and focuses on football, not sure this is the most likely outcome but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Woodytom said: Well exactly. All you've got to support your claim that black's line ups are shit is our own opinion. There's certainly no sustained performance evidence with certain players of this squad. It's a forum . . . Everyone is expressing their opinion . . . That's what this is . . . Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 30 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Everyone is expressing their opinion . . . Your opinion has no support though in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Your opinion has no support though in this case. There's no such thing as incontrovertible truth when it comes to judging a player's quality. I can't call on a higher power to back me up. All I can do is point out that seemingly an overwhelming majority of posters on this forum think Black's team selections are **** shit, and say that I agree with them. You feel differently, great, knock yourself out. But you're not right, any more than I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: All I can do is point out that seemingly an overwhelming majority of posters on this forum think Black's team selections are **** shit, and say that I agree with them. But an overwhelming majority thought paul lambert was a good signing, that the year we signed Bacuna was the most exciting year for decades (not because of Bacuna obv), that the approach last summer was a sound one, that remi garde was a good appointment and that all these players needed was a good manager. Quite a lot of the time the majority of fans are wrong or certainly have been recently. I'm not saying jack should or shouldn't be in the team, I'm just asking how many managers will it take not picking him to be convinced it's HIM and not them. Because 3/4 didn't really pick him and the 1 that did is arguably one of the most hated men in discussion on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Woodytom said: But an overwhelming majority thought paul lambert was a good signing, that the year we signed Bacuna was the most exciting year for decades (not because of Bacuna obv), that the approach last summer was a sound one, that remi garde was a good appointment and that all these players needed was a good manager. Quite a lot of the time the majority of fans are wrong or certainly have been recently. I'm not saying jack should or shouldn't be in the team, I'm just asking how many managers will it take not picking him to be convinced it's HIM and not them. Because 3/4 didn't really pick him and the 1 that did is arguably one of the most hated men in discussion on here. I'm going to leave the conversation here. My initial post was meant to be funny, and I'm going to try to avoid the situation of explaining a joke in laborious detail. We have radically different opinions on this subject, let's leave it there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Woodytom said: But an overwhelming majority thought paul lambert was a good signing, that the year we signed Bacuna was the most exciting year for decades (not because of Bacuna obv), that the approach last summer was a sound one, that remi garde was a good appointment and that all these players needed was a good manager. Quite a lot of the time the majority of fans are wrong or certainly have been recently. I'm not saying jack should or shouldn't be in the team, I'm just asking how many managers will it take not picking him to be convinced it's HIM and not them. Because 3/4 didn't really pick him and the 1 that did is arguably one of the most hated men in discussion on here. Giggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: Giggle. Not going to debate the points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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