dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Johnnyp said: Obviously not. Do u remember Yorke sulking and strolling around the place on the first day of the season against Everton because Ellis wouldn't let him go to United ? Do you want that scenario ? Very easy to say " Well Jack wouldn't do that, boyhood club etc " I don't think the boyhood club stuff has as much significance for him at 26 than it did when he was breaking into the team, became captain etc. He's a professional elite level footballer who wants to win things. Again im looking at this through the lens of objectivity. I remember it well. I also remember Grealish clapping the fans following Hull away with tears in his eyes. I was there. I don’t think the two situations are comparable really, no. But if he was to tarnish his legacy here then fair enough, maybe you’ll be proven correct. Regardless, I think you are underestimating the fact that Villa own 4+ years of a contract signed 10 months ago. Where, funnily enough, the player talked about it being for “his” club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Like any player if he wants to go he will hand in a transfer request then all villa can do is get the most money possible. This was always my worry with him playing for England, getting tapped up again like players before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 No way he leaves this season and I will give 20 quid to Acorns if he does! He has unfinished business with Villa and I'm sure he wants to lead us as high as possible up the table this year and next. If that doesnt work out then he'll probably be off but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Like Yorke you mean ? ( "but that's different, Jack's a Villa fan " !! ) Shocking reveal - top players want to play in elite competitions, challenge for trophies . Tough shit when you've signed a 5 year deal, 12 months ago. It might seem harsh but this is really the bottom line. Regardless of what Jack may or may not want, he's under contract. Therefore, the club do hold all the cards, not some of them. If our owners decided worst case scenario they were willing to let Jack's contract run out over the next 4 years if he wouldn't resign, ensuring he stays while the club grows. I'm on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Obviously not. Do u remember Yorke sulking and strolling around the place on the first day of the season against Everton because Ellis wouldn't let him go to United ? Do you want that scenario ? Very easy to say " Well Jack wouldn't do that, boyhood club etc " I don't think the boyhood club stuff has as much significance for him at 26 than it did when he was breaking into the team, became captain etc. He's a professional elite level footballer who wants to win things. Again im looking at this through the lens of negativity. Just because you say it is objective does not make it so. This is just your opinion. It is also false equivalency to compare to Yorke, or Barry or Young or Delph. A case can be made for both scenarios. I think the case for him remaining this season is a stronger one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johnnyp said: Obviously not. Do u remember Yorke sulking and strolling around the place on the first day of the season against Everton because Ellis wouldn't let him go to United ? Do you want that scenario ? Very easy to say " Well Jack wouldn't do that, boyhood club etc " I don't think the boyhood club stuff has as much significance for him at 26 than it did when he was breaking into the team, became captain etc. He's a professional elite level footballer who wants to win things. Again im looking at this through the lens of objectivity. If He wants to go?....There is not much point in having him around against his will. In such circumstances, we just have to be sufficiently compensated. I remember Andy Gray, John Gidman and John Deehan going in the same summer, we thought the end of the world had arrived......but we went on to experience our best period in our History. Whatever, will be,will be. Jack has to rememeber that if Pep Leaves, Man City, will not be the same.....it could all change.......there is far more potential, going on at our club, that could well, fulfil his dreams. Edited June 25, 2021 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 As far as I can tell we're all reacting to a Sky Sports article full of "intends" and "understands" statements. Not going to get upset about anything until someone from Villa says $ity have bid, and it's on video rather than from someone "close" to Grealish or the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Obviously not. Do u remember Yorke sulking and strolling around the place on the first day of the season against Everton because Ellis wouldn't let him go to United ? Do you want that scenario ? Very easy to say " Well Jack wouldn't do that, boyhood club etc " I don't think the boyhood club stuff has as much significance for him at 26 than it did when he was breaking into the team, became captain etc. He's a professional elite level footballer who wants to win things. Again im looking at this through the lens of objectivity. I couldn't even contemplate moving to/playing for a different club. How could you possibly have the same passion? How many of us lifelong Villa fans (like Grealish) could hand-on-heart say they would give as much for any other Prem club as they would the Villa? Edited June 25, 2021 by Beastmix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, rjw63 said: Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. All this is going to happen except for the Jack getting exposure bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, rjw63 said: Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. Now you've said that he'll come on and win us the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, rjw63 said: Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. I'm not far off this too, winning the Euros meh, would rather see that d¡ckless d¡ck on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I hope his Dad and Bro emotional blackmail into signing a 20 year deal I wonder if he knows he holds the key to the happiness of all of his people (us lot). This club and Jack Grealish is the most perfect fit Ive ever seen in sport. The damage will be catastrophic if he leaves at this particular moment in time. Another year to see where we might get to; if its just mediocre midtableness again- I think everyone will understand this time next year. The never would have known aspect will eat us alive. The trajectory right now is so powerfully upward that it just has to be capitalised on. The golden boy of English football, true world class homegrown guy pushing his club to heights like this is a once in a lifetime thing. The exposure and raising of the clubs profile cant be understated either, no way we trade all that just to give in to cheatcode Citeh for a measly 100m. Not with 4 years on a deal. We get another season regardless imo 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 If he goes, he goes. He doesnt owe us a thing. He's given more than enough and stayed longer that we thought he ever would. That said, what concerns me is if we get the £100m number that is floating around, I worry how we will spend it. Not just the personnel but the inflated prices we'll have to pay to get them with clubs knowing we have the cash. Look at the rubbish Spurs bought when they sold Bale or how Everton wasted the Lukaku money. That's more concerning that losing the actual player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, rjw63 said: Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. Hmmm I think I’d prefer Jack scores a hat trick in every round through to and including the final. Among all the plaudits, there will be significant laughter at how Southgate wouldn’t pick him and Jack’s value would be £300m and everyone would want to play alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Also I assume FFP doesn't apply man Oil City either if she can afford him and Kane... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRO Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Hopefully bignose benches him again versus ze Krauts, England lose, jack gets no more exposure. He ain't doing too bad so far, despite his cameo's.......If he has a game like he does for Villa, god knows what will happen, The internet will burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Jack will be on the England live stream soon if anyone is interested (starts 4pm). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, R.Bear said: If he goes, he goes. He doesnt owe us a thing. He's given more than enough and stayed longer that we thought he ever would. That said, what concerns me is if we get the £100m number that is floating around, I worry how we will spend it. Not just the personnel but the inflated prices we'll have to pay to get them with clubs knowing we have the cash. Look at the rubbish Spurs bought when they sold Bale or how Everton wasted the Lukaku money. That's more concerning that losing the actual player. That is the problem.... but every huge transfer fee, just sets the level of the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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