stewiek2 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: McGinn and Cash both on 4 yellows as well, something to watch in the 2nd half Let them get yellows. As shite as they are we want our full strength lineup to go to Old Trafford on Boxing Day, so I'd rather McGinn misses out against Sheffield United than Man Utd Edited December 17, 2023 by stewiek2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, AshVilla said: If you want to finish top 4 or challenge for the title you have to beat teams like Brentford. All the teams below us won so we need to win here. Manchester City didn't, but I know where you are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, allani said: Blimey this thread is almost as bad as the commentator on Optus Sport who keeps talking about all the chances Brentford have created - forgetting that every single one of them was given offside and so doesn't count. I sometimes wonder whether if someone caught the ball, ran the full length of the pitch with it tucked under their arm and then dropped it to have a shot that the keeper saves how long they would talk about it being a great save. IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!!! Yeah, if you play to beat our high line you play into our hands. We're amazing at it, we've had like 80 offsides given for us, spurs I think are second with about 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2023 We're an easy team to stop away from home. We're reliant on a couple of players and without we splutter - without Luiz were incredibly predictable in our passing and if you stop McGinn we're a counter attack team. And we are so regimented in our play that when we do have up change things we wobble badly. That's what will ultimately hurt us. We've got this insane home form but away the returns haven't been good enough and they're already been too many games were we huff and puff but the opposition just follows their game and hurts us. Happened at Forest, happened at Bournemouth, happened at Wolves, it's happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Well according to the stats we are on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: We're joint 4th highest scorers in the league... Yes, but just 3 goals over the last 315 minutes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Aston_Villan4 said: I’d say we were the better team in the same way Arsenal were against us last week. No excuses for not converting our chances and Moreno is our Zinchenko today. I find it utterly bizarre that we have created virtually nothing for watkins and diaby in that half. They have quite a lot of space to run into. The lack of creativity and spark is worrying for me. Uts a pattern forest, Bournemouth and brentford now. Id throw in mostar as well but i think that wa sjust we couldnt be asked and just wante dto avoid defeat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 If we lose this I will have to reassess my expectations. Our away form is way too poor to expect to finish in the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 No subs at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: Second string is a massive drop off in quality and the returning players have all been awful. Cash terrible, Moreno poor, Ramsey simply shouldnt be on the pitch. Unfortunately that's coupled with the increasingly standard invisible performance of Diaby. McGinn is ineffective due to changed position. Pau, Carlos only decent players so far. Kamara is half the player with Luiz by his side. No urgency, no belief, no effort. Really disappointing performance from the team and actually worse than the Nottingham game. Unai will have to have a massive change in approach/ personnel in the second half as we've been horrific and not truly tested their keeper. A standard away performance? Our first XI is arguably title challengers. This XI are barely top half challengers. We are missing a few players alright but this is hardly our second choice 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, Aston_Villan4 said: What’s the injury for Tielemans? Just referred to as a knock/doubt, no details given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, Chindie said: We're an easy team to stop away from home. We're reliant on a couple of players and without we splutter - without Luiz were incredibly predictable in our passing and if you stop McGinn we're a counter attack team. And we are so regimented in our play that when we do have up change things we wobble badly. That's what will ultimately hurt us. We've got this insane home form but away the returns haven't been good enough and they're already been too many games were we huff and puff but the opposition just follows their game and hurts us. Happened at Forest, happened at Bournemouth, happened at Wolves, it's happening here. Well you also have Ramsey and Moreno are still very rusty plus Diaby who is out of form. That doesn’t help either. But just more proof that we need signings and better depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I used to worry about being behind. Now I expect Unai to do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 17, 2023 Got to be a red card, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 send him off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Don't think that's a red but it's a blatant yellow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Oh yay more rubbish play away from home. Again, when there’s an opportunity to get ahead a bit more from the likes of city etc, we go and fluff it up. All toooooo predictable at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Commentary team now watching when we beat Tottenham from 1-0 down then... That looks like almost deliberate on mcginn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Talldarkandransome said: Well according to the stats we are on top Sweet! Should get some points for that at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 That's horrible but I don't think he meant it, would be a harsh red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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