villa4europe Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Genie said: Same here, I suspect the police behaviour was in response to what was going on. I dont with the French police They're not only **** useless they're heavy handed and can't read situations leading to them causing escalations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: I dont with the French police They're not only **** useless they're heavy handed and can't read situations leading to them causing escalations I agree the policing seems to be terrible, but I think it is in reaction to problems at the stadium. I don’t think they believe what they were doing was a normal way to get fans into the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I think the worry is this didnt happen in the Real Madrid end and the Real fans seemed to get in OK and nearly an hour before the game Somebody has messed up but apparently 100000 Liverpool fans travelled to Paris which is another issue as about 75000 of them didnt have tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: I think the worry is this didnt happen in the Real Madrid end and the Real fans seemed to get in OK and nearly an hour before the game Somebody has messed up but apparently 100000 Liverpool fans travelled to Paris which is another issue as about 75000 of them didnt have tickets It's not a problem if a million fans travel. It's a problem if 1000-2000 of those try to get in on 2nd hand fake tickets and cause delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MakemineVanilla Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, R.Bear said: What a load of utter bollocks. I don't even know what you're trying to say. I assume you use phrases like the "Sky 4" and "football didnt start in 1992" as well right? Let me spell it out for you: I don't believe a club like Forest could ever win the Champions League twice or a club like Ipswich could win the league title the season after being promoted, I believe the whole structure of football competitions has been arranged to preserve the Champions League exclusively for the super-rich clubs. I think it was done to bribe the "big" clubs to cease their talk of a European super league: the Champions League is the de facto equivalent. The fairplay restrictions prevents any middling club from challenging the big brands and that qualification for the Europa League over-taxes playing resources, which ensures a club's players are too knackered to compete twice a week, while stretching their financial resources. In economic terms these things are known as "barriers to entry". I believe that Everton's close call with relegation was the direct result of them qualifying for the Europa League 2017-18. You may consider my opinion to be either paranoid, eccentric, heretical, or bollocks, but it is still my opinion. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think the worry is this didnt happen in the Real Madrid end and the Real fans seemed to get in OK and nearly an hour before the game Somebody has messed up but apparently 100000 Liverpool fans travelled to Paris which is another issue as about 75000 of them didnt have tickets 17 minutes ago, Mic09 said: It's not a problem if a million fans travel. It's a problem if 1000-2000 of those try to get in on 2nd hand fake tickets and cause delays. Read this pals - and subsequent video footage etc in the comments below. Be warned, though, it doesn't blame Liverpool fans. 2 hours ago, blandy said: Maybe have a read of this thread, or what Lineker, Shearer, Andy Robertson, Spanish media and many many others have reported 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Mic09 said: Yes, Liverpool fans were bottlenecked, poor organisation. My question is, why weren't they being let in? No one seems to be answering that question. I refuse to believe there were only 2 gates for 20 thousand people, especially as that stadium organises similarly big games on frequent basis. It happens there for Rugby too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Rodrygo, Vini, Casemiro and Militao played Marcelo didn't get off the bench In the overall match day squad they had more though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, bobzy said: Read this pals - and subsequent video footage etc in the comments below. Be warned, though, it doesn't blame Liverpool fans. Am I blaming Liverpool fans? Do you not think many people (regardless of what team they support) would have bought fake tickets for such an event and tried their luck? It's not normal, but to be expected. And it must have added to the events last night. Add to that the bottleneck and local people trying to break in and you have yourself the 2022 Paris CL final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Stuart Pearce but a goalkeeper up front. Why is he talking about football and being paid for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, blandy said: It happens there for Rugby too Bloody Ireland fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Not sure what the hell is happening here....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Not sure what the hell is happening here....... Well whatever you do, don't say it was a Liverpool fan who hit him, just because they had a Liverpool shirt on, an a scouse accent there's no proof. Edited May 29, 2022 by foreveryoung 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, blandy said: Where's the footage if he has a camera with him, he was obviously outside the stadium, wasn't even in for the game. Where's the footage? He said he was gassed, why did they not turn the camera on and record it or the aftermath, he seems to have recovered well, not even red faced. How many fans were arrested by these heavy handed police. I'm guessing the bottle neck with the police vans was put in place to stop fans rushing in and causing the inevitable, since most didn't have tickets, not a bad idea to be fair. Also why has it not been reported how the Madrid fans were all in waiting for the game to start. I guess it'll be in the report in 2035. Edited May 29, 2022 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Well whatever you do, don't say it was a Liverpool fan who hit him, just because they had a Liverpool shirt on, an a scouse accent there's no proof. He MAY have been a bluenose to be fair. Punch from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now, sidcow said: He MAY have been a bluenose to be fair. Punch from behind. Yeah that was naughty, an what was the old chap doing getting involved. He's doing nothing for their reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Well whatever you do, don't say it was a Liverpool fan who hit him, just because they had a Liverpool shirt on, an a scouse accent there's no proof. Exactly, a Villa fan might have potentially, possibly done the same so we should all pipe down. Edited May 29, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We will see season 2023/24 hopefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now, Mic09 said: Yes, Liverpool fans were bottlenecked, poor organisation. My question is, why weren't they being let in? No one seems to be answering that question. I refuse to believe there were only 2 gates for 20 thousand people, especially as that stadium organises similarly big games on frequent basis. They were in the fan area. They keep them separate from all the sponsors/officials etc. Normal big events are not run like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said: Let me spell it out for you: I don't believe a club like Forest could ever win the Champions League twice or a club like Ipswich could win the league title the season after being promoted, I believe the whole structure of football competitions has been arranged to preserve the Champions League exclusively for the super-rich clubs. I think it was done to bribe the "big" clubs to cease their talk of a European super league: the Champions League is the de facto equivalent. So basically "wah wah wah other clubs have more money and are more rich and successful than we are". Let me flip it around. Villa and most of the big clubs have been in the top division for virtually their entire existence. Clubs like Barnet for example have never been anywhere near the top division despite existing for well over 100 years. They could say the same about us. "Aston Villa always have money and the FA protect them from ever dropping down" blah blah blah. So essentially we do what Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal do only not as well. We use our resources to stay at the top (or near it). I dont see you feeling sorry for Barnet. So you can piss and whine about money, so called corruption, status quo, protected clubs, anything you want but what it really comes down to is you're jealous of more successful clubs. This is where you say you would be alienated from the club if we bought success. Funny how the clubs fans who this has happened to said the same thing until it happened. Fans dont give a **** about how they get their success, they just want it. The ones that dont get it will use any reason to belittle the clubs that do. It's all just a smokescreen for jealously. Remember, we're jealous of about 5-6 clubs. There are 100s who are jealous of us. Keep that in mind or you will drive yourself crazy. Edited May 29, 2022 by R.Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts