Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: I'm assuming that fake tickets are people being duped rather than printing off fakes? Different situation to being ticketless IMO That’s a big assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Genie said: That’s a big assumption. People seem quite happy to assume the opposite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: People seem quite happy to assume the opposite I find the hatred in football utterly ridiculous. Good summation of society, I guess. Filled with pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: People seem quite happy to assume the opposite Lots of videos of fans forcing their way into the ground and climbing barriers will do that though. Nothing quite says I shouldn’t be allowed in like breaking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 There does of course seem to be a strange over reaction from French police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Lots of videos of fans forcing their way into the ground and climbing barriers will do that though. Nothing quite says I shouldn’t be allowed in like breaking in. All English football fans are clearings in the woods too then - including Villa ones. I'm right here, yeah? Also, this is why I said I'm assuming the fake tickets are people being duped rather than being ticketless (where you'd force your way in). Stories such as https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18703214/liverpool-fans-scammed-champions-league-final-tickets/, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: All English football fans are clearings in the woods too then - including Villa ones. I'm right here, yeah? Also, this is why I said I'm assuming the fake tickets are people being duped rather than being ticketless (where you'd force your way in). Stories such as https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18703214/liverpool-fans-scammed-champions-league-final-tickets/, for example. Well, you take your chances with dodgy sources like that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: Well, you take your chances with dodgy sources like that. Oh, absolutely. And they've spotted it before travelling - but I imagine plenty of others didn't. Seems PDF tickets over Twitter is a massive thing these days as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr_Dogg said: Well, you take your chances with dodgy sources like that. They weren’t even paper, they were PDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Genie said: They weren’t even paper, they were PDF That's just a case of hitting print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, AVFCforever1991 said: Real Madrid had 5 , Liverpool 4 Rodrygo, Vini, Casemiro and Militao played Marcelo didn't get off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, Davkaus said: People seem quite happy to assume the opposite Normally I would give benefit of doubt but in 2007 Liverpool fans did the exact same thing in Athens which nearly caused trouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2022 44 minutes ago, Genie said: Lots of videos of fans forcing their way into the ground and climbing barriers will do that though. Nothing quite says I shouldn’t be allowed in like breaking in. in fairness further videos have come to light of fans with tickets outside the gates which had presumably been closed. it could be that SOME of those jumping the fence had legit tickets but they weren't letting anyone else in. if you'd followed your team all over europe, made it to the ground, only to be turned away for no reason, i can understand that you'd get yourself in however you could i'm playing devils advocate here but it sounded like an utter shitshow all round. a combination of fans without tickets, fans with fake tickets (knowingly or unknowingly), and local residents storming gates to try and get in causing a chaos (remember, st denis is the Parisian ghetto - it's not somewhere you ever want to be lost). just gotta remember this if we ever find ourselves at a major european final. don't take any chances...rather be bored in my seat in the ground for 3 hours than deal with all that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) edit Edited May 29, 2022 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: in fairness further videos have come to light of fans with tickets outside the gates which had presumably been closed. it could be that SOME of those jumping the fence had legit tickets but they weren't letting anyone else in. if you'd followed your team all over europe, made it to the ground, only to be turned away for no reason, i can understand that you'd get yourself in however you could i'm playing devils advocate here but it sounded like an utter shitshow all round. a combination of fans without tickets, fans with fake tickets (knowingly or unknowingly), and local residents storming gates to try and get in causing a chaos (remember, st denis is the Parisian ghetto - it's not somewhere you ever want to be lost). just gotta remember this if we ever find ourselves at a major european final. don't take any chances...rather be bored in my seat in the ground for 3 hours than deal with all that Sound familiar though? Obviously some people don't learn. Even if I had a ticket an didn't get in, I'd be well pissed, but you wouldn't catch me climbing over fences risking a night in the Parisian cells, no thankyou. I'd still be there in the atmosphere, so would probably go watch it somewhere, unhappy, but out of danger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomav84 said: in fairness further videos have come to light of fans with tickets outside the gates which had presumably been closed. it could be that SOME of those jumping the fence had legit tickets but they weren't letting anyone else in. if you'd followed your team all over europe, made it to the ground, only to be turned away for no reason, i can understand that you'd get yourself in however you could i'm playing devils advocate here but it sounded like an utter shitshow all round. a combination of fans without tickets, fans with fake tickets (knowingly or unknowingly), and local residents storming gates to try and get in causing a chaos (remember, st denis is the Parisian ghetto - it's not somewhere you ever want to be lost). just gotta remember this if we ever find ourselves at a major european final. don't take any chances...rather be bored in my seat in the ground for 3 hours than deal with all that Yes, an absolute mess. Nobody really knows if those outside with tickets were real tickets either. The tickets look cheap and nasty too. I’d have expected for such an event for them to have water marks or holograms in them. It makes them much harder for anyone with a PC to create believable fake PDF’s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 UEFA/FIFA solution will be to give all the tickets to sponsors moving forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AshVilla Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) I wonder if they will wear black armbands and have a minute silence in their prem opener next season because they lost. Edited May 29, 2022 by AshVilla 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted May 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) There's a story on the BBC coverage this morning from someone who spent a thousand pounds (!!!!) on a ticket (and then I struggle to follow exactly because the language is poor) it seems like the stadium scanners wouldn't accept the ticket so they couldn't get in. Sounds on the face of it like at least some Liverpool fans were defrauded and landed with fake tickets. But even so... Spending a grand on a ticket? I mean, you've got to at least suspect something is up there... Edited May 29, 2022 by Lichfield Dean Poor language lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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