Zatman Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Atletico didnt even make it to the Europa League and results tonight could swing Juventus out too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Listening to the Price of Football podcast, we are already in a Super League. As of next season it will almost be impossible to break into the top 6 permanently. UEFA making it so you can only spend 70% of revenue on wages. Spurs revenue is twice ours so their wage bill can be twice ours. Man City is 3 times ours, so their wage bill can be 3x ours. Should we, or a Newcastle have a great season, the best players will just be cherry picked on higher wages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Listening to the Price of Football podcast, we are already in a Super League. As of next season it will almost be impossible to break into the top 6 permanently. UEFA making it so you can only spend 70% of revenue on wages. Spurs revenue is twice ours so their wage bill can be twice ours. Man City is 3 times ours, so their wage bill can be 3x ours. Should we, or a Newcastle have a great season, the best players will just be cherry picked on higher wages. That won't happen to Newcastle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: That won't happen to Newcastle. i'll believe it when i see it Guimares was linked real madrid in the summer and he gave some flowery statement kissing the badge but the reality is if real madrid come in with £60m he's gone, if newcastle say **** that we dont need the money then when his contract expires he's gone if haaland wants to join real madrid in 5 years time then he will, the hierarchy still exists, some of the big clubs are also chucking monstrous wages around wait until newcastle get in to a position where they threaten city and see if city go for their players, or play the game in the transfer window that results in sanchez getting £300k a week at utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Listening to the Price of Football podcast, we are already in a Super League. As of next season it will almost be impossible to break into the top 6 permanently. UEFA making it so you can only spend 70% of revenue on wages. Spurs revenue is twice ours so their wage bill can be twice ours. Man City is 3 times ours, so their wage bill can be 3x ours. Should we, or a Newcastle have a great season, the best players will just be cherry picked on higher wages. It's a bigger problem for Juventus, Napoli, Ajax, Bayern, etc. The premier league clubs have huge TV money to inflate revenue. That's the whole motivation for the Super league in the first place, the rest of Europe can't compete when the last place team in the premier league gets £100m+ in TV revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i'll believe it when i see it Guimares was linked real madrid in the summer and he gave some flowery statement kissing the badge but the reality is if real madrid come in with £60m he's gone, if newcastle say **** that we dont need the money then when his contract expires he's gone if haaland wants to join real madrid in 5 years time then he will, the hierarchy still exists, some of the big clubs are also chucking monstrous wages around wait until newcastle get in to a position where they threaten city and see if city go for their players, or play the game in the transfer window that results in sanchez getting £300k a week at utd Since they were taken over, City have not been threatened with having their players taken at all. They pay too well and that's just what is 'officially' out there. Newcastle will be the same, they won't even blink at bids coming in for their players, they don't even need to respond. Guimaraes may well leave on a free, but that is 4 years away. And considering he cost £40 million why would they sell for 60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Since they were taken over, City have not been threatened with having their players taken at all. They pay too well and that's just what is 'officially' out there. Newcastle will be the same, they won't even blink at bids coming in for their players, they don't even need to respond. Guimaraes may well leave on a free, but that is 4 years away. And considering he cost £40 million why would they sell for 60? we will see i dont think newcastle get CL in the next 2 years and the landscape has changed since city won the lottery, if real madrid come back with real interest for guimares he will be a real madrid player (FWIW i dont think the interest was real this summer, that was a weird link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Newcastle will be fine. They will just do lucrative pre-season tours of Saudi Arabia each year, where every ticket costs £100k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 hours ago, pas5898 said: Listening to the Price of Football podcast, we are already in a Super League. As of next season it will almost be impossible to break into the top 6 permanently. UEFA making it so you can only spend 70% of revenue on wages. Spurs revenue is twice ours so their wage bill can be twice ours. Man City is 3 times ours, so their wage bill can be 3x ours. Should we, or a Newcastle have a great season, the best players will just be cherry picked on higher wages. yeah it's more of the PL is already the Super League with all of the revenue coming for every club and add that the top 6 make double even triple that of the other 14. But the other 14 can already compete / better the offers made by European-chasing teams in other leagues. I really do think that within 10 years we will have a massive reshuffling of the footballing landscape as finances continue to grow (and rapidly fall for some) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Barca and Juve didn't qualify for the next round in CL. Especially Barca will feel this financially. Curious to see if they start to rehash this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, AXD said: Barca and Juve didn't qualify for the next round in CL. Especially Barca will feel this financially. Curious to see if they start to rehash this nonsense. FINANCIAL LEVERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 22 hours ago, AXD said: Barca and Juve didn't qualify for the next round in CL. Especially Barca will feel this financially. Curious to see if they start to rehash this nonsense. To a certain extent, they haven't stopped trying, with various low-level legal actions over the last 18 months. But their actual problem is that the finances don't work without Premier League clubs, and the backlash from PL club fans meant the idea was DOA. Nothing has changed about that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Bad news for the Real, Juve and Barca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted December 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, sne said: Bad news for the Real, Juve and Barca When the Superleague comes again I'm convinced it will be a FIFA competition. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 The superleague is the CL. Funny how they introduced that reform following the first failed attempt at the superleague with magical legacy places made available to appease those clubs who can’t quite manage to get top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: When the Superleague comes again I'm convinced it will be a FIFA competition. UEFA and FIFA will go to war with each other but its almost inevitable The surprising thing is FIFA seemingly want the 2 year WC cycle and have binned off their club World Cup plans, that competition would open the doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tomaszk said: When the Superleague comes again I'm convinced it will be a FIFA competition. Yup, Saudi funded FIFA thing. Think we will see a Saudi vs Qatar or FIFA vs UEFA proxy war Edited December 16, 2022 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 year world cup? No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted December 16, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2022 Interesting that Infantino has announced an expanded club world cup - that's the little UEFA vs FIFA battle there - Club World Cup vs Champions League as the prime de facto Superleague. I'm very pleased that the initial judgement yesterday (hopefully to be ratified by a full court) is that clubs are very welcome to form their own leagues, but that they shouldn't then expect to be welcome in the existing leagues as well - that's a key for me. I've nothing against Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd going off to play Juve and Real every fortnight, but if they do it, they should leave the Premier League altogether - you don't get to have both. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Interesting that Infantino has announced an expanded club world cup - that's the little UEFA vs FIFA battle there - Club World Cup vs Champions League as the prime de facto Superleague. I'm very pleased that the initial judgement yesterday (hopefully to be ratified by a full court) is that clubs are very welcome to form their own leagues, but that they shouldn't then expect to be welcome in the existing leagues as well - that's a key for me. I've nothing against Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd going off to play Juve and Real every fortnight, but if they do it, they should leave the Premier League altogether - you don't get to have both. No doubt this expanded club World Cup will be played in the Middle East. Seems to be the compromise to avoid Juve, Barca and Madrid going out of business over the coming years (of course they could always put the onus on this clubs to reform themselves but that’s never going to happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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