Ratings & Reactions: FAC3: Man Utd v Villa

[The_Steve]

There’s too much at stake to allow the subjectivity - even Gallagher is having trouble defending it fully

 

 

[TRO]

11 hours ago, IrishVilla10 said:

Var doesn’t control our lack of intensity, wastefulness in possession, being caught badly on the counter. I said we looked flat against Chelsea and got pelters for it, maybe rightfully once I heard the game plan. But I don’t see any intensity from us at all three games later. Mcginn looked exhausted in the first half 

I thought their goal was piss poor from us.....We seem to be huffing and puffing our way through games and stupid defending is undoing us.

I can see why we was deemed to be the better side.....but defending is a part of the game thus contributes to " The better team".......we have to defend better than that.....Aerial balls seem to be our achilles.

[TRO]

That was the perfect start for a team that was struggling with confidence......to say it was a gift, is an understatement.

They just got in our way after that and engaged in the gamesmanship, that they are accustomed to...ably lead by Mr Shaw.

We dominated possession, partly due to their current form, but our iffy decision making, made it hard for ourselves on the back of biased officiating.

[Peter Griffin]

12 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

If it was a genuine VAR decision, Cavani was very smart to make it. Run into a player who is offside off the ball, any possible goal will then be ruled out

That is what smart players and smart teams do. 

[MCU]

You can see how Liverpool put 5 past them. They are utter trash and what frustrates me is that we couldn't put our chances away. We really were a Coutinho away from beating them.

[stewiek2]

13 hours ago, ender4 said:

Quoting this for Saturday

It's fine, I don't need a rugby and tennis ball anyway!

[Hornso]

Ollie has to take that chance and we have to do better than to concede soft goals like that. Especially right at the start against a side under a lot of pressure.

Oh and Michael Oliver is a incompetent, smug prick.

[PaulC]

Cant fault the performance. We were the better team for large parts of the game and but for a very dubious VAR call,  we'd have got something from the game. Yes you could argue the defending for their goal but it was a great cross by Fred. May positives from that game. Lets beat them at Villa Park!

[John]

14 hours ago, CVByrne said:

We play like that next week we'll beat them. The usual, United Ref the difference today

I hope you are right, but we haven't beat them at home in the league since Beckham was a boy and they will have a referee and VAR on their side again, next time out too. 

Edited January 11, 2022 by John

[Lochheads twin]

apologies if this has already been posted.

Time to move on and get ready for revenge at the weekend.

 

[rubberman]

Completely outplayed them and were very unlucky (at the least) not to come away with something. One thing I think it does show is the benefit of experience in the team. Cavani wasn't going to get to the ball so brought a foul (whatever the correctness of the decision) and they got away with a ridiculous number of other niggles, fouls etc including the elbow to Konsa. One or 2 older heads might improve our naivety.

They are definitely there to be done over on Saturday.

[villalad21]

36 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Last night we completely out played utd.

Everyone outplays United these days.

Norwich and Newcastle outplayed United.

They are awful and was there for the taking. We couldn't take advantage of it.

[nick76]

 

[nick76]

I think we should not bother with the FA Cup in the future, it’s a old fashioned competition that’s had it’s day in the sun

 

 

[barry'sboots]

15 hours ago, nick76 said:

Better team lost

We don’t know how to score!

Don't you mean: We don't know how to score and not get the perfectly legitimate goal ruled out by a corrupt officiating mechanism!

[Pelle]

I don't really care about if it was a correct call or not (I don't think it was correct at all, and no, I wouldn't react to it if it was the other way around.), that's more or less semantic. It was the way they really tried to find something to disallow it for. Almost 4 minutes of searching, thoroughly going through if it was offside on Ings, or possibly Watkins, or a hand on Ings, and then they had him look at that a few minutes later. They were looking for a case, that's very obvious. I don't even think it was against us, more for them. They wanted them to go through so they still have a trophy to play for. Having seen that Halsey interview and BBC's documentary about PL it's quite obvious that some clubs are more favoured than others, and one club more than every other club. So when we scored that and it was disallowed in that way I really felt "What's the point in this?". They will come up with something to disallow the next one too. Had Ollie scored they would've said that Ollie fouled VNL. Or perhaps Doris the tea lady serving tea at the wrong temperature at VP. 4 bloody minutes and they found a very dubious obstruction from Ramsey, who was almost standing still, on Cavani who fell over like Trez and waved at the ref at once. And kept complaining. It was bloody manure themselves that started that trend by having van Nistelrooy standing way behind the wall when they had a freekick. He was never called off for obstructing the defenders even though his presence there was always obstructing defenders when they were tracking back. Sure, that wasn't the main reason for him to be standing there, but it was a benefit. Never have I ever seen such a decision. And to say that anything like this has never happened before is just not true. Through 150 years of football I doubt this was the first time anything like this happened. No, this was clearly showing that they wanted to disallow it. Can anyone else remember VAR checking 3 different incidents on one goal?

Anyway, we deserved more, we were the better team over all, but of course we need to take our chances, even if it's harder knowing that they will probably be disallowed anyway. And the defending for the goal wasn't exactly text book standard of good defending. But for the rest of the game we defended well. They had a few harmless shots from outside the area, and that was about it. 

I thought Douglas Luiz was mostly excellent, but every now and then he made horrible errors that could've cost us. And then Targett's pass to DL at the end of the first half. We can't do things like that. We need to be more carewfull. Those were just sloppy moments. Fewer mistakes like that, more decisivness in front both goals, and we will win a lot of games.

Now, back to Oliver & the gang. Surely, a normal ref would look at a players bloody face and think that "Hang on, I must've missed something here."? Not yesterday's ref team, though. I wonder if he was afraid to give a late pen or that he knew that meant he had to send Shaw off. Or both? And then he couldn't wait for the clock to pass 96 before he blew the final whistle. He blew it on 96 sharp when we had the ball. Not really a bad thing, but with all the other stuff this evening, it just fullfilled the picture of a ref wanting them to win. 6 minutes ET after 4 minutes of VAR, Konsa being down, Dalot being down, really wasn't enough.

Normally I'd say we will thrash them on Saturday, but I know we won't because they're manure and they can't be allowed to get thrashed by a team like ours.

Rant over, UTV!

[VillaChris]

9 minutes ago, Mantis said:

Lots of talk about if we lose on Saturday it'll be "4 defeats in a row" but I don't think that really tells the full story. We played ok against Chelsea, dominated United yesterday and got done over by VAR again and while we were poor against Brentford, even then we dominated for large spells of the game and should've got something. Not exactly the same as just rolling over, which is basically what we did in Smith's final games.

So far under Gerrard we've almost always performed quite well.

I think second time in 12 months covid has messed us up a fair bit.

We won at Norwich and had momentum and winnable game v Burnley that could've got us to 7th gets called off. Also a very good time to play Leeds with all their injuries and we lost that chance and we'll probably play them end of season now when they have Phillips and all the others back.

One game we play is Chelsea which is always a tough one.

Losing to Brentford after being comfortably a goal up is the one black mark for me under Gerrard so far. All the other defeats I've been fine with as generally we've had good spells in them bar Liverpool when we just played for a 0-0 and weren't far off getting that.

Think we just need to relax a little bit as we've got plenty of winnable games in next two months and we're 6 points off 8th.

[rjw63]

10 minutes ago, Pelle said:

 

 We need to be more carewfull.

 

 

Agree with every word though, @Pelle

[Pelle]

7 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

 

Agree with every word though, @Pelle

**** me, are you using magnifying glasses?  

[rjw63]

10 minutes ago, Pelle said:

**** me, are you using magnifying glasses?  

I'm on a 27" monitor, although I'd have still spotted that on my phone.