Lord Willard Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I'd put a decent bet that Ings would outscore Watkins if played the same amount of games as our no9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Fair play to him. Nowadays if you are premier league player near 30 you need to be training all year round. You can't do an Eden hazard and go on the piss for a summer and come back to preseason 8kg overweight. Do you remember Merson that season we won the Inter Toto cup first game back in that, looked about 2/3 stone overweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I've always thought Ings looks a few pounds overweight. I could be completely wrong of course, it could be pure muscle! Anyhow, if I'm right, he could do with really trimming down to extend his career at the top level. I'd rather have Ings up front than Watkins this season. Both have their plus points, but Ings is a better footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Do you remember Merson that season we won the Inter Toto cup first game back in that, looked about 2/3 stone overweight Do you remember Gabby the season we went down he looked 10 stone overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, villanmac said: If he scores more, he'll play more re Ings. Not sure what more he could do in his limited game time....... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Needs to be more mobile/agile, has looked really slowly and sluggish for us. Seemed to struggle to run at times… hopefully just a fitness issue. Glad to see he’s working on it. A fitter, sharper Ings next season will be an asset for sure. Same goes for Watkins. They both need to be better. But only one in the team please, I want Buendia to play regularly mainly due to his creativity and Coutinho can support the striker too - probably just as well if not better than either Ings or Watkins did last season. A solid midfield base will help a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Do you remember Gabby the season we went down he looked 10 stone overweight. Understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Ings and Watkins are two very different types of striker. Ings thrives on balls in behind a defence, on clever little touches and being in the right place at the right time. Watkins creates a lot of chances for himself through his work rate and willingness to press and harass defenders. As has been said before, if you combined Watkins’ work rate and stamina with Ings’ finishing ability and first touch, you’d have one of the best strikers in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Ings and Watkins are two very different types of striker. Ings thrives on balls in behind a defence, on clever little touches and being in the right place at the right time. Watkins creates a lot of chances for himself through his work rate and willingness to press and harass defenders. As has been said before, if you combined Watkins’ work rate and stamina with Ings’ finishing ability and first touch, you’d have one of the best strikers in the league. Which is better suited to our style of play though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: Do you remember Gabby the season we went down he looked 10 stone overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: Do you remember Gabby the season we went down he looked 10 stone overweight. I’ve tried to erase that from memory yes but yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: Do you remember Gabby the season we went down he looked 10 stone overweight. That’s the TV camera effect, he was actually only nine stone overweight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: That’s the TV camera effect, he was actually only nine stone overweight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: it could be pure muscle! If I had a £ for every time I’d used that excuse….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: If I had a £ for every time I’d used that excuse….. I think you are lovely, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Which is better suited to our style of play though? Watkins, because we need someone up top who will run their bollocks off for 90 minutes week in week out. If Watkins could just improve his first touch and passing he’d be lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) I think Ings would be better suited to our play. Abandon the high press, and play the people that unlock a defence regardless of when and where they get the ball. Coutinho, Buendia, and Ings make for a chance creating/finishing machine, that work as well on a counter attack as they do just building from open play. If we want to go for a press style of play it's got to be with both Watkins and Ings, and Buendia behind... no place for Coutinho in that team, and that isn't going to happen under Gerrard. Long story short, Ings would be best for what I believe is Gerrards preferred 1-striker lineup. Edited June 20, 2022 by MrBlack Edit: Ings doesn't get the recognition he deserves for his pressing. He's nearly as good at it as Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: If I had a £ for every time I’d used that excuse….. If you had a lbs for every time you used that. You could do this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 A very stop start season for Ings, in and out of the team and with varied tactical set ups too. I think if he was our first choice number 9 he’d score 15 goals+. Strikers rely on match sharpness more than anyone else, it’s always going to be difficult if you’re not the main main unless you’re one of those rare “super sub” players. I still believe he was a panic signing, the speed in which it happened and the proximity to the Grealish transfer, with no obvious way he’d actually fit in. Hopefully Gerrard will have worked out how to use him because the constant tweaking trying to force the partnership with Watkins held us back and we can’t continue mucking about with it indefinitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: If you had a lbs for every time you used that. You could do this I used £ and deliberately avoided the word pound in an attempt to avoid this kind of answer! I might have known I wouldn’t get away with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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