magnkarl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Swerbs said: That's made my day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Silent_Bob said: We are still the 7th most successfull team in terms of trophies. One less than Spurs. We've won 21 major trophies to Spurs' 17. Or you can deduct one Super Cup each if you don't count that. Edited April 19, 2021 by Wainy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 We also need to stop calling the big 6 "clubs" they aren't clubs anymore. They are profit driven multinational companies. - therein lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I think a lot of real football fans are against this idea which is clear to see. Unfortunately, due to the globalisation of football, this new fangled idea is probably targetted at foreign glory hunters. I can imagine that a lot of the revenue will come through broadcasting rights. If these clubs are booted out of the Premier League and players are excluded from international tournaments sanctioned by FIFA, does this mean that their registrations will also be terminated by FIFA and therefore they wouldn't be able to transfer to a club like, say Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: This piece of shit is the leader of it, FIFA should ban him for life for a start i think what he is saying is completely right but his answer to it is completely wrong, rather than try and mould newer football fans in to understanding what football is all about and trying to encourage them to support juve over barca or man city he wants to pander to them, those who support 2 clubs, those who buy ronaldo and messi shirts rather than club shirts, he doesnt want the die hards, he has to work to earn them, he wants the casuals, he wants that Gen Z or whatever the **** he called them, those that dont care about football to somehow put money in juventus' pocket he openly admits that he has no interest in die hard life long juventus fans - when he says "the fan" at the centre, he means the football fan, he doesnt mean the juventus fan, he wants mindless generic football fans with no allegiances chucking money everywhere, he's not looking at potential new markets and asking how can he make them support juventus, he doesnt care who they support as long as juventus get paid from them he makes it sound like it'll be the NFL international series in 10 years time, juve playing barca in the new 80k seater stadium in Jakarta, the shirt of every super league club being worn in the crowd, a faux home team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Swerbs said: Bloody el - Southgate might have to pick Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 When is parliament discussing this? I read somewhere that they're to debate what actions to take this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Arsenal the big club that furloughed it’s mascot until a player offered to cover its wages. Its the kind of thing small Heath would do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, magnkarl said: When is parliament discussing this? I read somewhere that they're to debate what actions to take this afternoon. 5pm statement to the house I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Swerbs said: Really need FIFA to come out and say the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If there are places in the CL for elite clubs that don't qualify - then the spirit of football is fecked anyway. CL or ESL is pretty close to being the same think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, PieFacE said: Really need FIFA to come out and say the same thing. their statement last night was worryingly soft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, tomav84 said: their statement last night was worryingly soft. Indeed. Think they will bottle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: i think what he is saying is completely right but his answer to it is completely wrong, rather than try and mould newer football fans in to understanding what football is all about and trying to encourage them to support juve over barca or man city he wants to pander to them, those who support 2 clubs, those who buy ronaldo and messi shirts rather than club shirts, he doesnt want the die hards, he has to work to earn them, he wants the casuals, he wants that Gen Z or whatever the **** he called them, those that dont care about football to somehow put money in juventus' pocket he openly admits that he has no interest in die hard life long juventus fans - when he says "the fan" at the centre, he means the football fan, he doesnt mean the juventus fan, he wants mindless generic football fans with no allegiances chucking money everywhere, he's not looking at potential new markets and asking how can he make them support juventus, he doesnt care who they support as long as juventus get paid from them he makes it sound like it'll be the NFL international series in 10 years time, juve playing barca in the new 80k seater stadium in Jakarta, the shirt of every super league club being worn in the crowd, a faux home team That will be the demographic of the ESL, certainly. Wait til he realises that if only one team wins the ESL, the casual fans will just start 'supporting' them and not Juventus. The fact that 'casual fan' is an oxymoron will ruin him. After he, and those like him, have ruined football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 I think all the clubs involved have to be kicked out of the league, and I'm not giving up hope that it's something that could happen. At this point the PL and the 'other' 14 clubs have nothing to lose. If this plan goes ahead there will be no drama, no spectacle with any of the games, 90% of the games will have no meaning especially towards the end of the season when 1 team is 15 points clear of the rest. No one will want to watch it, the PL TV deal will plummet, sponsors etc, anything we fear we will lose if the 'big 6' are kicked out will end up being lost anyway, financially speaking. For football to survive without these clubs we will need the current TV deals like Sky to keep going, which could happen as they don't seem to have any input into this breakaway, they might want to continue supporting the PL to benefit themselves also. To make things more interesting and to get interest levels rising without the big 6, it could be a good time to let the Scottish clubs come in. Honestly though I'm just totally gutted, I've been in mourning about this all day as it feels like football has already died for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sne Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Joao Cancelo and Bruno Fernandes both speaking out against the Super League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 19, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Wouldn't you then have the problem of a bunch of other billionaires owning other clubs outside the bullshit league that will offer crazy wages? Why stay in a non-competitive mini league if you can play in a real league making more money? That'd be like a billionaire buying Stoke in the Championship and making them the best side in the world even though they aren't allowed to be promoted. Who is going to lose billions of pounds so they can win the Championship time and time again? Clubs outside the super league won't be owned by billionaires - the ceiling this puts on other clubs makes investment outside of this group unattractive. NSWE bought Villa for £60m - they've invested more than £200m and now the club is worth maybe £400m. Their plan is to make us more competitive, a bigger brand, to grow Villa through investment and smart decisions made by good people to the point where the club is worth £1bn. Without the big revenue the PL brings and without the possibility of ever being able to compete with the likes of Spurs or Chelsea, the possibility of the club ever being worth £1bn is removed - and with it the reason for investment - in fact, the possibility of the club remaining at £400m is probably removed - the whole reason that the billionaires are here would be gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: their statement last night was worryingly soft. It really was. They'll follow the money unfortunately. The more I think about it, the more I think it could be a good thing. Look at football right now. Look at the kick off times (Covid aside). Look at VAR. Look at the money in the game. It's all just a circus tbh. We've all been calling for 'the big reset' for a number of years and this is the perfect opportunity for it. Throw the 6 clubs out of the PL, promote 6 from the Championship or something similar and start again. It honestly doesn't bother me if Villa are playing Rotherham or Arsenal, I'll enjoy the spectacle regardless. Ban the breakaway clubs. Let them go and play in front of 50,000 people in Qatar on a Tuesday morning, live on China's number 1 streaming network. Reset. Reimagine. Bring the game back to the people. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Swerbs said: Brilliant. ESL already said they had legal advice on this, but need national associations to follow up and close the loop. If players are at clubs not domestically registered then they play outside the structures of football so can be chinned off from the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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