TrentVilla Posted March 15, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, imavillan said: He’s got 10 games to become a legend. Come on Lee, don’t **** this up and don’t polish the turd. Achieve relegation and you can have the freedom of the City. He will be a legend in Birmingham in 10 games time, just depends which side are hailing him. I think he will keep them up sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 It would be funny to see them go down, but they’d probably have a decent year next year if they do. I’m not overly fussed. If they survive they’ll just be delaying the inevitable for another year of circling the drain which is also nice to see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 If he keeps them up I think it will be more to do with new manager bounce than anything else, in the long term I can't see him doing very well with them, will probably fall out with their owners at some point. If they do go down I don't think it will be easy for them to come back up, I'd imagine they'd lose most of their players as not sure they'd be able to afford their wages as a league one club, so would have a lot of rebuilding to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 It seems like they have a cycle - blose sack manager after floating close to relegation he keeps them up then same following year sack manager and keeps them up. Sacking karanka and his team must have cost them a absolute fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Sacking karanka and his team must have cost them a absolute fortune Not officially sacked him yet have they? Some rumours that hes been put on gardening leave and Bowyer wonr be named manager but head coach, as karanka will still technically be the manager, but told to stay away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: It seems like they have a cycle - blose sack manager after floating close to relegation he keeps them up then same following year sack manager and keeps them up. Sacking karanka and his team must have cost them a absolute fortune They're just like we were between 2011-15. And you know that sort of s*** irrelevance and just existing in a league is killing them so much inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: Not officially sacked him yet have they? Some rumours that hes been put on gardening leave and Bowyer wonr be named manager but head coach, as karanka will still technically be the manager, but told to stay away Praying this is true When they sack Bowyer in 10 games times they can put him on gardening leave too and hire a new “team leader”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 hours ago, cyrusr said: If it is him, surely they would still have to pay some comp. to Charlton, too suspicious for him to resign the same day. I do wonder if they are prepping for League 1, which given the position they are currently in would be a little surprising to be honest. Were the finances released the other day? Is there a difficulty with those? Newcastle had a similar issue with hiring Bruce from Sheffield Wed. They ended up paying some form of compensation iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: Newcastle had a similar issue with hiring Bruce from Sheffield Wed. They ended up paying some form of compensation iirc Yes there are rumours that they still have to be compensation. The speculation is between 250k-400k Add that to the millions its costing them to sack karanka and his huge backroom team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Karanka thank you for your service. You are a villa legend in our eyes He never completed the job though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hoping for a Remi Garde type new manager bounce from Bowyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: He never completed the job though? He kept himself in the job a lot longer than anyone expected though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Greenfly said: He kept himself in the job a lot longer than anyone expected though. Sure, but it counts for nothing if they manage to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Is ‘new manager bounce’ actually a real thing? It always seems to get mentioned whenever a new manager comes in but it seems like more often than not there is no sudden change in fortunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Is ‘new manager bounce’ actually a real thing? It always seems to get mentioned whenever a new manager comes in but it seems like more often than not there is no sudden change in fortunes. Chelsea say hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 A new manager can often inspire a “bounce” if the players he inherits have a lack of confidence and belief. It’s harder when they have a basic lack of ability. The noses lack all three. Bowyer has picked the wrong club here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 16, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Is ‘new manager bounce’ actually a real thing? It always seems to get mentioned whenever a new manager comes in but it seems like more often than not there is no sudden change in fortunes. No, statistically there is no such thing. I suspect it is a bit of a relic like some managers. The game of old was about motivation, throwing things and getting players to react so I can see it was a thing, these days its about tactics, coaching and set up so I think it is far harder to spark an improvement in results quickly. Watch them win 3 on the bounce now I've said that. Karanka had clearly lost the players which is a factor in their results but the players are also just not very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Karanka had clearly lost the players which is a factor in their results but the players are also just not very good. Every single Blooser who rings the WM phone-in claims they have a top 6, if not top half at least squad. As long as you've "watched and bit, played a bit" you know your football. Mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: Chelsea say hi Yeah Chelsea improved, West Brom didn’t. I wonder if someone has gone through a big analysis of whether a change in management gives a sudden upturn in fortunes on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, LondonLax said: Yeah Chelsea improved, West Brom didn’t. I wonder if someone has gone through a big analysis of whether a change in management gives a sudden upturn in fortunes on average. I cant think of any Villa managers, maybe Gregory when he came in. Sherwood and Smith even lost a few early doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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