VillaChris Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, picicata said: Well they do have quite the collection of crap strikers so it's not surprising they're not great infront of goal. Couple that with a shit goal keeper and you have a team in trouble. Think their leading scorer upfront only scored about 6 goals last season. Think it's having a much poorer keeper and losing O'Connell that has disrupted them at the back seeing as they've failed to keep a clean sheet all season. Were really good at that last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted November 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2020 This run is getting a little concerning... Surely we'll get some results on the board soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Currently 18th in the form table over the last 5 games. We really need to beat Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Starting to look like one of those sides that starts well but everybody knows it wont last and we are really proving that. Need to get rid of the soft side of our defensive game or we will concede every time teams attack. Like the 2nd goal today you could see that coming before Bowen got the ball out to Benrama because the was no pressure on the ball. Must get nastier and harder to play against and quick before we become this years Bournemouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: Starting to look like one of those sides that starts well but everybody knows it wont last and we are really proving that. Need to get rid of the soft side of our defensive game or we will concede every time teams attack. Like the 2nd goal today you could see that coming before Bowen got the ball out to Benrama because the was no pressure on the ball. Must get nastier and harder to play against and quick before we become this years Bournemouth We probably aren't going down this year thanks to our improved creativity and the fact we clearly do have goals in us (if only we'd bloody score them), but... it's far from being an absolute certainty. Last night, Smith said: "play like that and 99 times out of a hundred and you win", but Aston Villa seem uniquely capable of not getting the results their play deserves and that is a mentality thing. Before lockdown at the end of last season we focused intensely on keeping our shape, being hard to score against and breaking strategically to great effect. We had the balance right. After the early season results this year, it feels like we have kidded ourselves into believing we can sacrifice some of the defensive play in favour of all out attack, but we aren't good enough for that yet. Currently, the defence has gone back to being unreliable, so if we do go down it will be because that has not been addressed. Smith does tend to go on fairly long streaky runs, so don't be surprised to see us lose again before the penny drops that we have to tighten up. A team with flare and creativity is pointless without defensive solidity and strikers that take their chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Those balmy carefree early season days when we thought we were finally a good team again, celebrated with joyful cries of 'we're back!' are well and truely behind us now; four defeats from five, three of those at home, and all winnable fixtures. As it stands we're now nine points clear of safety, Bournemouth this time last season were eight points from safety, three of the bottom four won over the weekend as well, so things are looking threateningly not conducive to success at the moment. The one thing in our favor is that we have a game on Friday so have a chance to quickly put thing right, a win would actually see us go fourth in the table which would cast our present predicament in a better light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 It's a very short road to bottom half of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, sne said: Currently 18th in the form table over the last 5 games. We really need to beat Newcastle I still feel better than the times last season where we were 3rd or 4th in the form table but in the bottom three in the actual table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I really hope our football quality doesn't slide back to trying to grind out results again just like last season. We have to have faith that better quality football over a season provides better results. Backs to the wall hoof up the pitch stuff is what you get from the likes of Bruce and the other old school managers, i don't want to see that style of football back at Villa Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: It's a very short road to bottom half of the table. Yup, second worst form in the league. Only Sheffield United offering less points than is out of the last 15. That is pretty poor going. If we do not pick up 9 points in December we will be below 13th in the table. Since Arsenal the Newcastle game went from a nothing game in to something much more significant given our losses to poor opposition from stupid errors we keep making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, useless said: The one thing in our favor is that we have a game on Friday so have a chance to quickly put thing right, a win would actually see us go fourth in the table. No one in seventh heaven after reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 losses in 5 is relegation form. We need to stop the rot. Once you start losing it quickly becomes a habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Our start to the season is uncannily similar to Bournemouth's start last season. Everything rests on the Newcastle game, lose that and our confidence really will disappear and we will strugle to get going again, whereas if we win just the psychological impact of seeing us go fourth in the table will make things seems so much better, and suddenly one win five becomes two wins in four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, useless said: Those balmy carefree early season days when we thought we were finally a good team again, celebrated with joyful cries of 'we're back!' are well and truely behind us now; four defeats from five, three of those at home, and all winnable fixtures. As it stands we're now nine points clear of safety, Bournemouth this time last season were eight points from safety, three of the bottom four won over the weekend as well, so things are looking threateningly not conducive to success at the moment. The one thing in our favor is that we have a game on Friday so have a chance to quickly put thing right, a win would actually see us go fourth in the table which would cast our present predicament in a better light. Everton battling relegation aswell? They've had a near identical run to us with four defeats out of five and lost to Southampton and Leeds in that. Swop Brighton for Newcastle for them. We'll be o.k, I still think we'll finish top 10 but we need to get back and start winning a couple before new year, hopefully starting on Friday. Edited December 1, 2020 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: 4 losses in 5 is relegation form. We need to stop the rot. Once you start losing it quickly becomes a habit. 5 wins in 9 is 8th-6th place form. Beat Barcodes and we are 4th. This is a very good start, and this team is clearly playing well, yesterdays performance was solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, sne said: Currently 18th in the form table over the last 5 games. We really need to beat Newcastle Is it surprising? how the mighty fall. we need to get back to the disciplines that win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Had a look back and Bournemouth had 16 points after 11 games last season so a win on Friday would still give us a better start from a game less. What's interesting is they then lost 6 of their next 7 games and still were 14th and 4 points clear of 18th e.g. us. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50791635 They only dropped into bottom 3 for first time last season after losing 4-0 at West Ham on NYD as we'd won at Burnley hours before. So from being 8 points clear as we are now it took them 8 defeats from 10 games to become 18th so we'd have to continue with a very tragic run up to 2021 and DS certainly wouldn't be surviving that after last year. Won't happen anyway but shows how bad the form would have to remain for this to become serious threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, Mic09 said: 5 wins in 9 is 8th-6th place form. Beat Barcodes and we are 4th. This is a very good start, and this team is clearly playing well, yesterdays performance was solid. I think you are watching the games with rose tinted specs on. did you see the goals conceded......solihull Moors would haved been pissed ,if they conceded them. Don't just watch certain aspects of the game and say we played well......our defending was poor, 2 shots, 2 goals is woeful......our finishing was closely followed too.......and that was solid?.....is your picture distorted and you missed both penalty area's ( just kidding of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Everton aren't a team that barely survived last season. Looks like our game against Newcastle is going to be postponed as well, increasing the chances that we could be just six points of the relegation zone after this weekend and then with Wolves to come, a game we might have had some confidence going into a while ago, but not on current form. Can't dine out on those first four games of the season forever, need to improve our form superdooperfast or we'll be in a relegation battle in no time and with fixture congestion and a ridiculously hard end to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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