HalfTimePost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 With him and Traore both just back from injury, Bailey injured, AEG out of form The formation change was a (good) necessity. I'm not sure you make the 19 Year old the only winger on the bench and change the formation for him to come on. Maybe some minutes Vs Spurs.. Then 2 weeks off during international break we'll see JPB, Traore and Bailey all back for Wolves. Buendia training with them all too and suddenly we have more formation options actually available to us and the game time will come flooding back for JPB. There was no hint of him being sent on loan before his injury and nobody else has stepped up in his absence so see no reason why he'd be loaned now. Just being sensible with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2021 I find it odd that this kid has barely had a sniff, especially during the months where Bailey was injured. Would like to see him involved a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I find it odd that this kid has barely had a sniff, especially during the months where Bailey was injured. Would like to see him involved a bit more. I think he's had a couple of injury setbacks during the period as well to be fair. Possibly at the worst times as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Great first half tonight for the U23’s but anonymous second half. Great talent that keeps developing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Seems to be the forgotten man under the new manager, probably 5th choice now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 He's a true winger, is he not? Probably needs a loan for the rest of the season given the system we're playing now, but we're so short on bodies, the club might not want to let him go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I don't think he's even fifth choice, Bailey, Traore, Buendia, El Ghazi, Trezeguet, would all likely to be picked ahead of him, and then as we've already seen this season players who aren't even wide forwards like Jacob Ramsey, Watkins, Ings, and Ashley Young get picked ahead of him, Carney Chukwuemeka has come off the bench to play as part of the front three ahead of him as well, to be honest I think Archer would be ahead of him as well. In terms of the style of player that he is, he's not really an old fahsioned winger in the sense of one that runs down the line whipping in crosses, for the U23s he'd play on the left cutting inside onto his right foot, and he's not just about pace, he's got good trickery and vision, so I think he could play as one of the 'No.10s' in Gerrard's system. I don't think we should get too fixated on the idea that Gerrard always plays with two 'No.10s' anyway, at Rangers Ryan Kent, very much a winger, played most games; the wide forwards play narrower, but a player doesn't have to be some sort of specialist no.10 to play as one of the wide forward's in Gerrard's system, most modern day wingers should be able to play it. Something that never seems to get talked about is his slight build, whereas with Barry it seems to get brought up often as being a barrier to him getting first team football, Philogene-Bidace is even smaller and slighter, maybe that plays a part in others getting selected ahead of him at the moment. In an ideal world I'd have Buendia, Traore, and Bailey ahead of him, with him as fourth choice, perhaps alternating with Carney. But as it stands probably needs a loan, unless we let Trezeguet and El Ghazi go, and maybe send Archer out on loan instead, in that scenario there might be more of a chance to give him more game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 3, 2022 I think a loan would be a good idea for him and his development - he's possibly a little hampered right now with the AFCON meaning he might need to be kept around for cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I am surprised he is not getting in ahead of Traore and Treseguet. Get him out on loan if he is not going to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 With both Traore and Trezeguet off to AFCON, Bailey still injured and AEG potentially moving to West Ham we might see him soon. Leeds would be a good game to get him a cameo in. Him and Chuk are like best mates. Both have flirted with the idea of moving to different clubs and both are big talents. We should be looking to keep them both very happy and with minutes. Not only that, JPB started the season better than Chuk, he deserves a chance imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: I am surprised he is not getting in ahead of Traore and Treseguet. Get him out on loan if he is not going to be used. I reckon SG wants to see his senior players in action ahead of the transfer windows in January and the summer. JPB could do with a loan for the remainder of the season to gain experience and game time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburglar Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Every time I read his name somewhere I can’t stop singing on a ragga tip. Bidace, bidace, phylogene bidace Gwarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I think a loan would be a good idea for him and his development - he's possibly a little hampered right now with the AFCON meaning he might need to be kept around for cover. Probably have a move lined up for the end of the window to a League 1 club. So when Trez and Traore are back he could go. If at end of the month we've a fit Watkins, Ings, Carney, Bailey, Young, Buendia, Traore, Trez, AEG and JPB I can see the last three in the list going either loan / sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Hopefully gets a chance with the first team or goes out on loan No point him sitting on that bench. Dont waste this talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Looks like hes going out on Loan! good luck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, messi11 said: Looks like hes going out on Loan! good luck Great any idea where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Wow, didn't realise JPB was nearly 20. Surely he needs to move on for the sake of his own career as he's nowhere near ousting anyone in front of him, and that's before we've spent a penny on new players under SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, AvonVillain said: Wow, didn't realise JPB was nearly 20. Surely he needs to move on for the sake of his own career as he's nowhere near ousting anyone in front of him, and that's before we've spent a penny on new players under SG. He’s still young and there’s no need for him to move on yet. Not every 19yr old gets many first team chances in the premier league. A loan is a great option and will do him good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, AvonVillain said: Wow, didn't realise JPB was nearly 20. Surely he needs to move on for the sake of his own career as he's nowhere near ousting anyone in front of him, and that's before we've spent a penny on new players under SG. Far too early for that . Although i don't think Gerrard is completely convinced by him. He is a mecurial talent . A real street baller ..He can do stuff that no one else can do and that includes Countinho. But he is still inconsistent and thats what is holding him back. He is like Eze in many ways and is still 3 years younger than him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Feels like Rangers would be a good loan for him. As much as SPL is derided good number of young players who go up there can kick on quickly like James Maddison at Aberdeen and Aribo at Rangers. Hopefully at very least top end league 1 if not championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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