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2 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said:

Loads more difficult to collect at the end of the night than beer glasses at a guess ?

I imagine these ladies can carry at least 3 corpses per hand

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11 minutes ago, Kingman said:

The German federal government has banned all major events in the country until August 31 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. 

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/germany-bans-all-major-events-until-end-of-august-2020-report/ 

Yep at the moment the lockdown is until 3rd May and then I think big shops (over 800m2) are allowed to open and school kids with exams this year go back

All events, so sporting, gigs, festivals etc are off until August 31st

And then with all that the social distancing stuff remains in place until they say otherwise 

They have their own furlough scheme called kurzarbeiten (short working) my company is rolling that out next week but I'm busy so not sure it will impact me, the shittest thing for me is I'm not allowed to go for baby scans with the wife, she's due July 3rd and under current rules I wouldn't be allowed to be there 

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5 hours ago, Enda said:

Fairly sure komp = kompromat, the quasi-military term for having dirt on a political rival. Putin allegedly taped Trump sleeping with escorts, i.e. the pee tape.

Trump is friends with Ed Glazer, who owns a football club in Manchester.

No idea what the sitcom stuff is about.

Komp also means “ knockout mouse”......the term for genetically altered mice used in labs - including labs experimenting with Coronaviruses and treatment thereof.

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57 minutes ago, sne said:

Think a lot of places driven by need, greed and necessity will try and re-open in the coming months. Some might even be successful.

For most places thou I think it will be like going from 28 Days Later to 28 Weeks Later and a total disaster. And once the autumn comes most of us will settle in for the long night.

Think it will be at least until the summer 2021 before we are starting to get back to anything close to "normal". And traveling abroad for holidays will be even further away.

Agree. I am increasingly seeing debate about returns to work, whether we will have a bounce, “ passing the peak”, and second waves.

Perhaps it’s the modern way to always subconsciously want to move on to the “ next thing”.

The reality as I see it is - in the absence of a vaccine being developed and widely administered next year at the earliest - that this is  premature.

The UK currently has 100,000 known cases with the current science suggesting 4/5 people are asymptomatic. So maybe 500,000 infections. Let’s be optimistic and say a million. Which could be a million with ( some ?) immunity.

Which means we still have 60 odd million. Getting a million immune in this scenario has cost at least 20,000 lives and heaven knows how many serious illnesses. And needed incredible ongoing dedication from Health workers WITH a lockdown.

I think we are on a roller coaster. We are getting to the top of the first ascent, and lost many overboard. But that sequence is going to be repeated a lot - in fact almost endlessly - before we can get off. And I don’t see any reason why the first ascent is even necessarily the highest one.
I don’t think it’s a “ second wave” that’s the issue yet as much as the duration of what could be a much longer, undulating first wave.


 

I very much hope I’m wrong !

 

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7 minutes ago, snowychap said:

As someone in the replies suggests, it looks like Cummings is back.

I remain of the view that “they” love the dissatisfaction the public are showing with the Lockdown.

A clamour from “ the people” to be allowed to mix, pursue activities, and get back to work, is like 18 year olds rushing to enlist in 1914.

 

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Phased ramp up is starting 

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Three major takeaway chains in the UK have announced limited reopening programmes after closing during the coronavirus lockdown.

Burger King, KFC and Pret A Manger are opening certain restaurants around the country for delivery only.

Government guidelines state that while restaurants and pubs have to close, they can prepare food for collection or delivery.

The chains had decided to temporarily close as the lockdown took effect.

'Lifting spirits'

Burger King is to reopen four restaurants: two in Bristol, one in Coventry, and one in Swindon, with a pared-down menu.

Staff will wear masks and gloves and will be trained in running delivery-only kitchens hygienically, the fast food chain said.

There will be stringent cleaning measures, and staff will get social distancing training.

The restaurants will also donate 1,000 meals per week to staff working at NHS hospitals in the vicinity of the reopened restaurants.

BBC

I wonder how long it’ll be until we start to see smaller factories return to operation.

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20 minutes ago, snowychap said:

As someone in the replies suggests, it looks like Cummings is back.

Why do I feel like the anniversary there is doing more of the heavy lifting than anything else that may be more relevant, like the experts view on public health?

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Looks like nearly everyone dying already has something that could potentially lead to their death and this is essentially flipping the switch and causing a worst case scenario for everyone at the same time.

Looks like the best "cure" going ahead is avoiding things that lead to heart/respiratory issues so healthy diet, exercise, don't smoke & keeping weight down should at least help give you a fighting chance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783

More than nine in 10 people dying with coronavirus have an underlying health condition, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.

The ONS looked at nearly 4,000 deaths during March in England and Wales where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate.

In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems.

The most common was heart disease, followed by dementia and respiratory illness.

The average number of conditions those who were dying had was 2.7.

 

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6 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Just because people have underlying health conditions doesn't mean they are imminently about to keel over regardless. 

i know, didn'y say it did but there is a chance that that sort of condition will eventually at some point lead to, or at least play a part in your demise.  Now this may well usually be in 10/20/30 years but it seems that this virus is causing it to happen now for a lot of people.

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14 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said:

Looks like nearly everyone dying already has something that could potentially lead to their death and this is essentially flipping the switch and causing a worst case scenario for everyone at the same time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783

More than nine in 10 people dying with coronavirus have an underlying health condition, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.

The ONS looked at nearly 4,000 deaths during March in England and Wales where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate.

In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems.

The most common was heart disease, followed by dementia and respiratory illness.

The average number of conditions those who were dying had was 2.7.

 

Interesting, although perhaps not unexpected.

At least 13 Million people in the UK have respiratory illnesses, 8 million have heart related illness, and there’s a million with dementia.

These are just those we know of.

Some of these people overlap of course but that means there is easily 12-15 million, or a fifth to a quarter of the population, that have these conditions. 

As such it’s perhaps not surprising that a virus which primarily attacks the respiratory system would give figures like this.

Interestingly of course, that “fifth to a quarter” also appears to be the percentage of people who get the virus and develop symptoms.....

 

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My brother in law is set to get married in Cyprus at the end of July. Thats not going to happen right?

The wedding company have told him it will all go ahead, coincidently just as final payments were required. 

He's convinced it will be fine and that 30 of us will be flying out to celebrate it. 

 

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Just now, DCJonah said:

My brother in law is set to get married in Cyprus at the end of July. Thats not going to happen right?

The wedding company have told him it will all go ahead, coincidently just as final payments were required. 

He's convinced it will be fine and that 30 of us will be flying out to celebrate it. 

 

Personally I wouldn’t go near an airport or aeroplane until I’ve been vaccinated. No way.

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Just now, terrytini said:

Personally I wouldn’t go near an airport or aeroplane until I’ve been vaccinated. No way.

I've said that to my wife. That even if it is going ahead and flights are going, there is no way I want to go. 

It would be crazy. I'm hoping its officially cancelled so we don't have to deal with that outcome. 

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