sne Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, LondonLax said: They should move to Sweden A bunch of far right wing, gun hugging, they tuk our jerbs Americans. Yeah I'm sure they'd love it here in socialist Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Kind of get the feeling that there's still a few days to go before people realise the extent of what's happening right now. I’m not sure many that still don’t see it will ever really grasp it, either through ignorance or denial. And it doesn’t help that our media seems light years behind the story. Mentioned in this thread 3 weeks ago that the Stats were not recording many dying at home, many dying in Care Homes, or others dying in hospital if no Co-vid test performed Post Mortem ( and that Post Mortem were being waived). A few days ago the press finally catch on to the Care Homes, and now tonight they’ve finally realised there’s loads dying at home and not recorded..... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/15/sharp-rise-in-ill-patients-dying-at-home-since-coronavirus-outbreak?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Warning as coronavirus outbreak leads to sharp rise in deaths at home “The A&E chiefs’ minutes said that on the weekend of 4-5 April the number of 999 calls in which someone had had a cardiac arrest rose from 55 a day in normal times to 140. Most of the people concerned died, doctors said.” “A&E doctors believe that many of the extra deaths from cardiac arrest are due to Covid-19 which, by making it difficult for someone to breathe, puts serious strain on their heart. “Of these 85 extra cardiac arrest deaths a day in London, they must be mainly Covid,” said the head of one A&E department.” That’s just London. CNN are tonight reporting the same type of story for New York.....I’ve no idea why it’s taking the media so long to get to grips with these stories but it’s essential they do to stop this utter nonsense that the Death Rates etc aren’t so bad after all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, terrytini said: I’m not sure many that still don’t see it will ever really grasp it, either through ignorance or denial. And it doesn’t help that our media seems light years behind the story. The story is everyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Brumerican said: The story is everyone. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just now, Awol said: Exactly. A lot I knew. A few surprises but it's basically everybody. A Global komp dump basically . And to think people doubted Trump was taped ha. I clocked all the sitcoms quite some time ago but the man yoo stuff was genuinely mind blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Another crazy rant from Trump at a briefing almost totally devoid of facts, during which he said absolutely nothing of value and during which he launched another ludicrous tirade against everyone and anyone, and defended the deaths per head of population in the US as looking worse because pretty much every other Country is lying....all topped off by him declaring “ we (POTUS) can do whatever we want”. Terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Genie said: IMF (I think it was) said there would be a 35% contraction in the economy assuming business reopens in June. There will be a similar 30-35% bounce for the next 3 months. 4 hours ago, sidcow said: No way will this equilise out. I think there will be a rebound as people/companies try to catch up but there will still be a big dip. I do think the pubs and restaurants who manage to survive will see a bumper first few weeks after lockdown ends. They will be queuing down the road for McDonald's. EDIT There is also threat of further future lockdowns again if the thing accelerates again which there is every danger of. 4 hours ago, Genie said: It does sound very optimistic, and very much finger in the air guestimates. I don’t think they claim to be predicting the future, just one scenario. Link That OBR growth forecast is farcical IMO. I really don't think people have got to grips with what is likely to happen over the next few months. It's not like we're just going to get to a day in June, then wave a wand, and everything will be like it was in February again, which seems to be what the OBR are suggesting. Restaurants will likely still be closed, or else operating at 50% capacity as people need to maintain social distancing rules. Clubs and pubs will probably remain closed. Cinemas, theatres, festivals, sporting events won't be open or running. Recreational tourism will be extremely limited, and international tourism may be almost impossible. Without an end to the virus in sight, there will be a constant danger of breakouts occuring, and us having to return to lockdown. More likely than the fastest ever growth in the British economy's history in Q3 (!!!) is a two-year depression as the country struggles to get to 80% of the economy open amid periodic lockdowns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 16, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Brumerican said: A lot I knew. A few surprises but it's basically everybody. A Global komp dump basically . And to think people doubted Trump was taped ha. I clocked all the sitcoms quite some time ago but the man yoo stuff was genuinely mind blowing. I have no idea what any of this means. Sorry. What is basically everybody? What's a Komp? Who taped Trump and doing what? What sitcoms? And what have Man Yoo got to do with it? I feel like I've woken up in the middle of a film and have no idea what's going on. Should I understand this? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Troglodyte Posted April 16, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I have no idea what any of this means. Sorry. What is basically everybody? What's a Komp? Who taped Trump and doing what? What sitcoms? And what have Man Yoo got to do with it? I feel like I've woken up in the middle of a film and have no idea what's going on. Should I understand this? Glad it's not just me! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I thought it was just me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I have no idea what any of this means. Sorry. What is basically everybody? What's a Komp? Who taped Trump and doing what? What sitcoms? And what have Man Yoo got to do with it? I feel like I've woken up in the middle of a film and have no idea what's going on. Should I understand this? PM'd you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I have no idea what any of this means. Sorry. What is basically everybody? What's a Komp? Who taped Trump and doing what? What sitcoms? And what have Man Yoo got to do with it? I feel like I've woken up in the middle of a film and have no idea what's going on. Should I understand this? Fairly sure komp = kompromat, the quasi-military term for having dirt on a political rival. Putin allegedly taped Trump sleeping with escorts, i.e. the pee tape. Trump is friends with Ed Glazer, who owns a football club in Manchester. No idea what the sitcom stuff is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzap24 Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Brumerican said: A lot I knew. A few surprises but it's basically everybody. A Global komp dump basically . And to think people doubted Trump was taped ha. I clocked all the sitcoms quite some time ago but the man yoo stuff was genuinely mind blowing. Were you baked when you posted this, because this is the kind of post I regularly delete around midnight when I’m battered?! Some of the ‘previous content’ I’ve cleared when it saves a draft post in a thread is amazing. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: That OBR growth forecast is farcical IMO. I really don't think people have got to grips with what is likely to happen over the next few months. It's not like we're just going to get to a day in June, then wave a wand, and everything will be like it was in February again, which seems to be what the OBR are suggesting. Restaurants will likely still be closed, or else operating at 50% capacity as people need to maintain social distancing rules. Clubs and pubs will probably remain closed. Cinemas, theatres, festivals, sporting events won't be open or running. Recreational tourism will be extremely limited, and international tourism may be almost impossible. Without an end to the virus in sight, there will be a constant danger of breakouts occuring, and us having to return to lockdown. More likely than the fastest ever growth in the British economy's history in Q3 (!!!) is a two-year depression as the country struggles to get to 80% of the economy open amid periodic lockdowns. Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, I doubt very much the bounce will be as quick as the scenario they modelled, they are not saying that in June everything will be back to normal. They said IF the lockdown ended at the end of May there would be a 3 month period of partial re-opening (as you said). So they are saying things back to the new normal around September time (again, I think it’ll be longer than that but they have more data and detail than me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: That OBR growth forecast is farcical IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 rumours here this morning that they've held discussions on cancelling Oktoberfest this year that would be massive, cant imagine Bavaria liking it, it generates about £1.2bn in revenue, 7m visitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Genie said: Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, I doubt very much the bounce will be as quick as the scenario they modelled, they are not saying that in June everything will be back to normal. They said IF the lockdown ended at the end of May there would be a 3 month period of partial re-opening (as you said). So they are saying things back to the new normal around September time (again, I think it’ll be longer than that but they have more data and detail than me). They are hoping for pent up demand for things to drive it initially. Move house, buy car or do X,Y,Z to the in the early part of 2020. But....if a lot of these people are now out of work / savings then this falls apart a bit on a people level. Business level, same story. Do they need the new warehouse / product line now and are they still in business etc. I don't think this will be like they think it will be. Caution will be the word I suspect for everyone. Could come back in January (Virus) with it's own PPE against the vaccine that doesn't even exist. From a SWOT point of view this is a nightmare. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: rumours here this morning that they've held discussions on cancelling Oktoberfest this year that would be massive, cant imagine Bavaria liking it, it generates about £1.2bn in revenue, 7m visitors Well, they could let it go ahead, just so long as Bavaria is ok with having the piles of corpses from the visitors sent back to them a few weeks later to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Think a lot of places driven by need, greed and necessity will try and re-open in the coming months. Some might even be successful. For most places thou I think it will be like going from 28 Days Later to 28 Weeks Later and a total disaster. And once the autumn comes most of us will settle in for the long night. Think it will be at least until the summer 2021 before we are starting to get back to anything close to "normal". If there is a vaccine by then. And traveling abroad for holidays will be even further away. Edited April 16, 2020 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, villa4europe said: rumours here this morning that they've held discussions on cancelling Oktoberfest this year that would be massive, cant imagine Bavaria liking it, it generates about £1.2bn in revenue, 7m visitors The German federal government has banned all major events in the country until August 31 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/germany-bans-all-major-events-until-end-of-august-2020-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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