Cizzler Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 28/07/2023 at 12:50, Zatman said: Worst thing for Barry career was scoring that goal vs Liverpool. It has lead to very unrealistic expectations Nonsense. He'd come from Barcelona and cost almost £1m at 17. He was part of our FA Youth Cup winning team. There was a boatload of hype which preceded the goal. I'm not writing him off - he's only 20 after all - but last season wasn't great for him (2 goals in 19 games in League 2, 1 goal in 22 games in League 1). Jacob Ramsey was already playing PL football at his age. Diaby was starting in the Bundesliga. The way his career his panning out it's looking more likely that goal will be the best thing he ever does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I get the nasty feeling his candle is burning a little less brightly now. He doesn't seem to have kicked on physically compared to how Jack did/JJ has after a season with the first team. He's not particularly athletic, so you get the feeling he'd be bestest by most full backs in the Prem. There's still time for him, but it's running out of he wants first team football at villa. He's got to smash it this year and become a squaddie next season for the cup games. Personally, I don't think he'll have a premier league career, but how many do? Hopefully he fulfills his potential he showed as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I get the nasty feeling his candle is burning a little less brightly now. He doesn't seem to have kicked on physically compared to how Jack did/JJ has after a season with the first team. He's not particularly athletic, so you get the feeling he'd be bestest by most full backs in the Prem. There's still time for him, but it's running out of he wants first team football at villa. He's got to smash it this year and become a squaddie next season for the cup games. Personally, I don't think he'll have a premier league career, but how many do? Hopefully he fulfills his potential he showed as a kid. He didn't get the growth spurt. He's what 5'7, 5'8 and isn't broad the way Archer is. If he was like 5'10 and like 10lbs heavier he'd have the physicality to go along with hsi technique to make it in the prem. But right now he's probably going to top out at as relegation level prem, top end championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2023 It's all about his attitude now , if he has the drive to succeed then he will. Look at Albrighton, won a premier league title with his work ethic, being Messi only works for 0.0001% of players , the rest succeed with the right attitude and a decent skill level as a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Cizzler said: Nonsense. He'd come from Barcelona and cost almost £1m at 17. He was part of our FA Youth Cup winning team. There was a boatload of hype which preceded the goal. I'm not writing him off - he's only 20 after all - but last season wasn't great for him (2 goals in 19 games in League 2, 1 goal in 22 games in League 1). Jacob Ramsey was already playing PL football at his age. Diaby was starting in the Bundesliga. The way his career his panning out it's looking more likely that goal will be the best thing he ever does. I bet maybe 1% of Villa fans watched him before that Liverpool game That goal and that idiot Klopp comparing him to Vardy made the hype on him get extreme. Age doesn't mean anything in football Drogba, Kevin Phillips, Vardy himself and others didnt get top flight breaks until later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 From the bits I've seen of him (highlights, the odd U23 match and v Liverpool) I think there's enough there not to give up on him yet. He seems a natural talent in terms of control, dribbling and a decent finisher but as others have mentioned he probably hasn't got the physicality yet but that could still come in time. Worth remembering Grealish was a bit lightweight until he was 23 or so? Hopefully this loan works out for him and he can get 40 games under his belt this season and plenty of goals and assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted August 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just scored his first Stockport goal 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Steve Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Delighted for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 That's a really good interview, not just standard after game chat, talks about his different loans, his time at Barcelona, why he signed for us, what he needs to do to improve his game, and comes across like a good natured character. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, useless said: That's a really good interview, not just standard after game chat, talks about his different loans, his time at Barcelona, why he signed for us, what he needs to do to improve his game, and comes across like a good natured character. Great interviewer too, if he's doing post match all season hopefully we'll get more and more info about how he's doing and how he feels the loan is going instead of the snapshots and stats we can easily access. Think Stockport is a good place for him, hopefully he can prove myself and others wrong and start to look like someone who has no business in league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 A Stockport reporter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Hopefully he is finding his feet. Like Archer, perhaps needs a little time to start to blossom. And for me the word “attackive” is not used enough in the English language. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEVE1883 Posted August 21, 2023 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 Louie looks a quality player so far. He's settled into the team well and his work rate is excellent. Fantastic when taking players on and his positional play is superb. Every game he seems to improve and is going to be a huge asset for us. Really looking forward to watching him progress and we will look after him. Setup at Stockport these days is extremely professional and he certainly has a platform he can perform on. This is his goal from Saturday all be it a wicked deflection. Very unlucky not to get a couple more. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Strog Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 Another goal for Louie against Mansfield 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted September 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just scored again 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Go on Louie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Has it finally clicked for this kid. I know its "only" League 2, but he has only just turned 20. He's scoring goals, so will no doubt get a proper run of games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I wonder if we just leave him there or if we pull him in Jan if he's doing amazing and send him back to League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 43 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I wonder if we just leave him there or if we pull him in Jan if he's doing amazing and send him back to League 1 Hasn't that backfired before with a couple of loans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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