hogso Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) I can highly recommend Vice's Dark Side of the Ring series for more on the 'inside' story on professional wrestling. They cover a bunch of different topics, the new series which starts soon covers topics such as Benoit and Fall Brawl. To a lesser extent there's also their series The Wrestlers, which has a life after wrestling episode - as well as episodes focusing on DDT (wacky Japanese promotion), Joshi (women's professional wrestling in Japan) and Death Match wrestling (Kas-ay-ee! Kas-ay-ee!) Edited January 27, 2020 by hogso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr_Pangloss Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, hogso said: I can highly recommend Vice's Dark Side of the Ring series for more on the 'inside' story on professional wrestling. They cover a bunch of different topics, the new series which starts soon covers topics such as Benoit and Fall Brawl. To a lesser extent there's also their series The Wrestlers, which has a life after wrestling episode - as well as episodes focusing on DDT (wacky Japanese promotion), Joshi (women's professional wrestling in Japan) and Death Match wrestling (Kas-ay-ee! Kas-ay-ee!) What was wrong with Fall Brawl, or do you mean the Brawl for All tournament, which was absolutely an insane idea, especially when they threw the winner in with Butterbean? Edited January 27, 2020 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: What was wrong with Fall Brawl, or do you mean the Brawl for All tournament, which was absolutely an insane idea, especially when they threw the winner in with Butterbean? I see from the Wikipedia article on Brawl for All that Bob Holly claimed the fight with Butterbean was punishment for beating the fighter the company wanted to win, which if true would be absolutely scandalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Someone should probably open a wrestling thread or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: I see from the Wikipedia article on Brawl for All that Bob Holly claimed the fight with Butterbean was punishment for beating the fighter the company wanted to win, which if true would be absolutely scandalous. I know more about wrestling than I should but it was supposed to be a big push for 'Dr Death' Steve Williams (who incidentally died over ten years ago). Dr Death had a reputation for being a tough guy and was apparently a 'legit' 'shoot' fighter. Bart Gunn won the tournament and sparked out Dr Death on route. Bart Gunn was clearly a guy who could punch but Butterbean was a pro boxer with over 50 fights at the time, competing in the 'super heavyweight division'. Not a top boxer but a pro and could really, really punch. Here's the 'fight' below, very dangerous. Scandalous that it wasn't stopped after the first knockdown. Edited January 27, 2020 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, Genie said: Someone should probably open a wrestling thread or something? The rate they die at I'd expect a Deadpool thread to become a wrestling one. PS. Keep Royal Rumble spoilers out of here (assuming nobody died on it). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Keep Royal rumble out of here as there is a thread dedicated to wrestling. On reflection that appears like an arsehole when not intended to be. Edited January 27, 2020 by Seat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2020 13 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I never realised just how much they have to work outside of the TV shows until recently. That said I thought Kurt Angle seemed in a decent place when he came back last year. I've not seen him much recently though. I think he's in a good place now. He's openly talked about it a number of times. It's just how well his body can cope with the abuse he gave it, both in the ring (pre and during his professional wrestling career) and in terms of the drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: What was wrong with Fall Brawl, or do you mean the Brawl for All tournament, which was absolutely an insane idea, especially when they threw the winner in with Butterbean? Haha, yes, you're absolutely right - the episode is to be dedicated to the stop Ry behind the Brawl for All tournament. I got the two mixed up, some how. It's not a topic I know an awful lot about. What I do know is that 'shootfighting' certainly wasn't without precedent by the time Brawl for All came round (Pancrase being the obvious example, UFC had been around for a few years by 98 too which Shamrock and Severn had been early stars in of course), were they trying to cash in on that? Guess I'll watch the show and find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Corrosion of Conformity drummer Reed Mullin, 53 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Bob Shane of The Kingston Trio, 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: Bob Shane of The Kingston Trio, 85 nope me neither .... Were they like the Birmingham 6 , the Guildford 4 and the Wetherfield one ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I think if I recall they influenced the beach boys in some way. Them and Jan and Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: I think if I recall they influenced the beach boys in some way. Them and Jan and Dean. Looking at their Wiki page, the amount of artists that cite them as an influence is like a who's who of the music biz, Dylan, Crosby and Stills, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Abba.... many more Elektra records might have gone under without them and Gibson guitars started to sell in much bigger numbers when the band started using them. I'd never heard of them either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 I guess it's an age thing, but I'm a little disappointed that people haven't at least heard of the Kingston Trio. They were bigger in America than here, but they were pretty much responsible for popularising (US) folk music in the late 50s. My Dad liked the song "Tom Dooley" - his mates at the factory used to sing "Hang down your head Tom Mooney, poor boy you're gonna die". Their version of "Sloop John B" was covered by the Beach Boys, and guitarist/banjo player Dave Guard was the prime influence on the playing of Fleetwood Mac's Lindsay Buckingham (should be two big ticks for rjw63 right there). Later member John Stewart wrote "Daydream Believer" (covered by The Monkees), and produced a series of superb albums in his own right. I met him a couple of times, and he was a top bloke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted January 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2020 Nicholas Parsons at, er... 96. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Worked until the end. Genuine legend of broadcasting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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