barry'sboots Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 I would get rid now (for a fee possibly to a bottom half/newly promoted team or a promotion challenger where he would start). He has done a decent job at times but I think that is as much about us crying out for someone in that position and looking better with a DCM than without. I think with Kamara coming in and, hopefully, Sangare or similar we would not need Marv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: I would get rid now (for a fee possibly to a bottom half/newly promoted team or a promotion challenger where he would start). He has done a decent job at times but I think that is as much about us crying out for someone in that position and looking better with a DCM than without. I think with Kamara coming in and, hopefully, Sangare or similar we would not need Marv. I'd keep him. We are short of ball winners in midfield and, if he could replicate his November 2021 player of the month form, then he would be a useful squad player to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejs1111 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 If Tim goes out on loan...keep him. If Tim stays. Try to sell. For me its as simple as that. Either player is used in cup matches and the occasional rotation spell for Kamara. I find that more beneficial for Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: I'd keep him. We are short of ball winners in midfield and, if he could replicate his November 2021 player of the month form, then he would be a useful squad player to have. He has a value at the minute. I think his player of the month form was more down to the system requiring a DCM, which was even more evident when he got injured. I am saying get rid on the assumption that the additional midfielder that we bring in (well publicised) is a strong sitter like Sangare and therefore we have Kamara and the new guy plus Tim, if he's not loaned, and Chambers if we need sub options and, hopefully, Dougie who could drop in if desperate. I don't want our squad to get too bloated and think the youth can fill up the bench as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: I'd keep him. We are short of ball winners in midfield and, if he could replicate his November 2021 player of the month form, then he would be a useful squad player to have. With the difficulty we have had in signing players with destructive skills, I too would keep him in the squad....we are not exactly blessed with them. He is not great with his on the ball skills, but he does seem to be able to comprehend the game without the ball, which some better all round players, seem to struggle with. If we do cash in.....we need a better option and Kamara on his own, is not enough. Edited June 22, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 9 hours ago, barry'sboots said: They might not take up a squad place but they can eat up minutes that could go to a younger player? OP said (ignore first blank one, can't delete it and it shows me as saying it) 19 hours ago, Vancvillan said: On 23/05/2022 at 03:29, meregreen said: It would be a waste of a squad place. It wouldn't. Your point stands but that's a different question. That said it is a good debate in terms of the value of having a better player vs developing a more raw talent with a higher ceiling. I don't think there's a clear answer without more context as it depends on the game and the score, our position in the league, form, etc.lockquote widget 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 For me I’d keep him and loan Tim. I’d keep Traore as well and loan Chuck (if he signs hopefully) those kids need minutes, we had a chance to offer them last season but we mostly didn’t. The need to get loaned then come back ready and as new signings. Nakamba could do a job next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Made In Aston said: I'd keep him. We are short of ball winners in midfield and, if he could replicate his November 2021 player of the month form, then he would be a useful squad player to have. If / when we sign another midfielder - I think they will probably have the ability to cover Kamara in the 6 role (albeit I think they will be more of a hybrid 6/8). So I guess it (a) depends on whether Nakamba is happy staying to play for the odd 15 minutes here and there, (b) whether he still offers us value only playing that number of minutes - I imagine he's not on a big contract and (c) whether Tim is ready to step up into that role within the squad. My gut feel is that I would rather be bringing on Tim and getting him used to the PL - from what I have seen so far his ceiling is way, way higher than Nakamba's. That said Marvellous always looks like someone who is living his dream and so he could well be very happy being emergency backup in the PL - in which case there are probably players that would be in the 25 man squad that should be moved on quicker (as they are more likely to become disinterested / twitchy about their futures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted June 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2022 I think we should definitely keep him as cover. Despite his limitations, we struggled so severely last season with him out of the side against teams with a physical presence in the centre. At the very least he's squad cover, and if Tim edges him out, all the better and we can sell in January. Right now there are so many ifs (whether Kamara hits the ground running, whether Tim can consistently show his worth on the big stage, what if we get an injury to Kamara). If any of those scenarios (obviously additional incomings notwithstanding) occur and Marv is not around, it's a potential season killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Sell. A new contract is a no and his value is only going to diminish with less playing time. We really need to get smart now in recouping money. He'd be a good pick up for a lot of teams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Sell sell sell. I'm sure Everton would take him for 10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, AshVilla said: Sell sell sell. I'm sure Everton would take him for 10m. Like they did Gueye who was also deemed to be shit and then sell him on to Paris St German a couple of years later ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, smg said: Like they did Gueye who was also deemed to be shit and then sell him on to Paris St German a couple of years later ? Gueye was never deemed to be shit but aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Gueye was never deemed to be shit but aye. Short memories but aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, smg said: Like they did Gueye who was also deemed to be shit and then sell him on to Paris St German a couple of years later ? Yes because Nakamba at the youthful age of 28 is going to develop into a star like Gueye did and have PSG as suitors . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Let’s be honest he isn’t good enough for where we want to be going this season, he can’t pass 5 yards, get rid whilst his stock is high and not when he has a year left on his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Agree with those saying it's him or Tim and we probably don't need both. I would be more minded to get a loan for Tim and keep Nakamba around another year. We wouldn't get much for him if we sold and he does a decent job for the squad. Tim meanwhile needs to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, rbcuk said: Let’s be honest he isn’t good enough for where we want to be going this season, he can’t pass 5 yards, get rid whilst his stock is high and not when he has a year left on his contract I’m not sure his stock is that high. He was injured for a part of last season and then didn’t get back into the team after his injury. Anyone after him won’t want to take a risk on him if the price was too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Yes because Nakamba at the youthful age of 28 is going to develop into a star like Gueye did and have PSG as suitors . Pity he wasn’t given the time to be a star at. Villa like a few others recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 He's OK as desperate cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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